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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " Yes, proceed. You are doing well."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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            "content": " Thank you very much. There is The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "the issue of charges that Sen. (Dr.) Murango talked about. You know that 75 per cent of coffee farmers are smallholders. It is only 25 per cent who are the big boys or estates. A smallholder with a half or one acre cannot manage to have his or her cherries processed and taken to Nairobi for auction at the NCE. That is why there is a co-operative movement."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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            "content": "You will find smallholder farmers joining co-operative movements so that they get services. Co-operative movements are not providing services for free. They are establishments with staff and machinery. Those services should be paid for."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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            "content": "Through the reforms, the Government said that the minimum that a coffee farmer can be paid is 85 per cent of the selling price. The 15 per cent goes to other service providers. It is because a small-scale coffee farmer cannot transport coffee from, say Bungoma, mill it and then take it to the NCE. We are now limiting those providing other services which has not happened before. It is now being limited through that legislation although some people have gone to court to stop that. However, that is the best way for coffee farmers to benefit to the maximum. Those services being paid for are not even 1 per cent. We have even reduced payments to brokers and the CMA. We have slightly increased payment to the NCE because of the services they provide. The Senator for Nandi also asked a question. I want to congratulate Nandi and Kericho counties that have come up. They are among top 10 producers of coffee in this country. Most of the farmers are moving from tea because there is more money in coffee. Let me state here categorically. Coffee is grown in 33 counties. Coffee can grow anywhere. Leave alone the belief that coffee can only grow in a particular area. We want to promote coffee to be grown in the entire country. Our mission is that coffee should be grown everywhere in this country. That is the only crop at the moment that I feel can change the economy of this country. That is why we have reforms. Madam Temporary Speaker, give me a chance next time to come and tell hon. Members here about the reforms that the Government has undertaken within the coffee sector that will make more people to grow coffee. Thank you very much."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " We have one more question from Sen. Crystal Asige."
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            "content": "Thank you so much, Madam Temporary Speaker. I might have pressed the button erroneously, but I also wish to extend my welcome to the hon. Cabinet Secretary. I think this is the first time we are meeting here in Parliament. I congratulate him as well on the work that he and his Ministry are doing."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " Thank you, Sen. Asige. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, thank you for the answers that you have offered for the questions that have been posed by the Senators. Sen. Mandago, is there a clarification?"
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            "content": "Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker. I did not hear the Cabinet Secretary respond on the issue of Coffee Research Institute (CRI)."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " Proceed, Cabinet Secretary. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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