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"content": "Report that has given birth to one of the amendments that we are discussing today. This was very timely. Dialogue is encouraged even in our families. When we have challenges in our everyday lives, we should encourage sitting down together to make decisions as worrying teams. If dialogues are given a chance, something always comes that everybody is able to celebrate. Today, we are here discussing a result of that dialogue. It was good that the two teams came together. We continue to congratulate His Excellency the President and the former Prime Minister, Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga, for taking that courage. One of the quotes that I like to read by Ruth Gordon says that courage is like a muscle. That it is only strengthened by use. It is for that reason that we celebrate these two gentlemen that came up with the sitting that brought forward the NADCO Report. We also celebrate the two thirds gender rule that was discussed and agreed on in the NADCO Report. We are calling on the two Houses to support it. Of course, we have discussed the two thirds gender rule in the Senate and a number of us supported it. However, political parties must do their part on it so that we can achieve the two thirds gender rule in this country. Another thing that was discussed in the NADCO Report was the formation of the panel of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC). We have seen good prospects from that because a panel was set. In the last few days, we have seen interviews that have been carried by this panel. We saw the interviews that were conducted by this panel in getting the next Chairperson of the IEBC. We have also seen after the conclusion of the interviews of the Chairperson, we went ahead to see the interviews of the members of the Commission. All we are asking for as Kenyans is that when we finally get the results of these interviews for the Chairperson and the members of the IEBC, we would like to see a membership of a commission that reflects the face of Kenyans. We would like to see inclusivity, gender composition and even a youth represented at the Commission. All these were products of the NADCO Report. We also saw a concern on the cost of living in the NADCO Report. Of course, that still is a concern up to today. We would like to see a country where there is concern for the cost of living of its members. I support this amendment before us because there are timelines that have been set. We also see a fine where a person who without a reasonable cause fails to make this instrument within the required timeline. The fine that has been mentioned here is only Kshs500,000. I suggest that this should be increased to at least Kshs2 million or more. This is because there are a number of Acts of Parliament lying in shelves without implementation. It means some of these implementers have no goodwill on these Acts. Since I joined the Senate, I realised that the process of even getting an Act of Parliament from the start to the end is very costly and painful. When Parliament has gone to prepare an Act and it has gone to completion and even ascended to, there should be no reason it should lie in some shelf because an implementer of the Act of Parliament is not"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "keen on preparing the required regulations that would make it operational. Therefore, once that offence is identified, the fine for it must also be made painful. I am also supporting that if an offence is made, this fine must never be paid from the public funds available. That once somebody commits this offence, he/she must pay from their personal proceeds. This will ensure that the executive goes ahead to prepare these regulations in time. I also suggest that counties or ministries be assessed by how many regulations they prepare. This will ensure that this comes out very clearly even in their performance contract. As I have mentioned before, there would be no need of a Ministry or County Executive Committee Member (CECM) to have Acts that are prepared by county assemblies and have them lying without regulations so that operations of those Acts are made easy."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support because this has been lacking. I support all of them together with the NADCO Report, some of whose proposals are still pending."
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"content": "I thank you."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am one of Members of the Committee on Delegated Legislation. This is my 13th year in that committee. One of the biggest challenges we have faced as a committee is that there are quite a number of Acts without regulations. It is impossible to implement an Act without regulations by a Cabinet Secretary in charge of a particular Ministry."
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"content": "One of the biggest challenges right now are the digital health regulations. That is what has made it difficult for the Social Health Authority (SHA) and the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF) to work. I am happy that they have now been placed before our committee. Probably, we are going to look at them this week with the new Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Duale, to make sure there is a way to implement the digital part of the operations of the Ministry of Health. That has been a big challenge. You can imagine what would happen if there are no health regulations."
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"content": "Another challenge which comes with the Statutory Instruments Act is that many Ministries seem not to understand them. Many Ministries are not aware that regulations expire after 10 years. The reason is that most regulations have charges which are likely to be increased or reduced with time. Therefore, as Sen. Faki, the Senator for Mombasa, has said, quite a number of regulations have expired. The Government tried to amend the Statutory Instruments Act in reverse to state that statutory regulations can stay forever but we fought that. I am happy that this particular amendment has been brought. All that Ministries need to do is to seek an extension of one year to look at the regulations. They do not need to be amended. They just need to republish and bring them before Parliament. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a good Bill. I agree with those who have said that the fine should be made tough. I will bring an amendment proposing to make the fine Kshs2 million. I believe I will work with Sen. Beatrice to make this tough so that Cabinet Secretaries are aware. That fine should come from the pocket of a relevant Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support this. I thank you for giving me an opportunity to contribute."
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