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"content": " Mhe. Spika. Mwanzo nakupongeza kwa kuwatambua wavuvi wa samaki. Ahsante. Wizara iko na mikakati gani ya kuwasaidia wavuvi kuboresha usalama wao? Wavuvi hawajazingatiwa inchini Kenya. Siku tatu zilizopita kule Lamu, boti ilipata shida mbele ya Mkokoni, na wavuvi wakapiga simu na kuomba wasaidiwe. Hawakusaidiwa, na ikabidi waogolee wenyewe wakafika. Chombo kilikuwa kimebeba mizigo mingi na mawimbi yakaja yakakizamisha. Ingekuwa rahisi wangefikiwa kwa haraka kwa maana si mbali na kambi nyingi za forces zilizoko katika eneo lile. Ni mikakati tuu haijapangwa. Tafadhali Waziri, hao wavuvi ni Wakenya, na wanachangia pakubwa uchumi wa nchi hii. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Hon. Spika, utanisaidia. Sijui niseme suala hili ni la kitengo cha usalama, ama kile cha utumishi au Blue Economy . Lakini hawa ni Wakenya, na inafaa watafutiwe njia wasaidike."
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"content": "ziwekwe. Ahsante."
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"content": "Waziri will take notes. Hon. Nabuin, you have the last chance on this matter."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On the same note, fishermen on Lake Turkana who fish around Sibiloi have been arrested and killed, or sometimes they just disappear in those waters. We have previously raised this matter in the House. The reason given is that fishermen go fishing in areas they are not supposed to. The problem is that no demarcation has been done around Sibiloi. Can the Cabinet Secretary tell us when they will do the demarcation so that our fishermen can be aware of areas where they are supposed to fish or not? Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": " Thank you very much for the very incisive follow-up questions. The first is on the question of Government Chemist services, including using science to conduct research or investigate crimes. As a Ministry, we have established that neither the Government Chemist nor the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) are adequately resourced to conduct forensic investigations or ensure they deal with the samples sent to their laboratories. Why? This is because the Government Chemist is centralised. There is only one laboratory serving the whole country, and it is based in Nairobi. Through this House, we have already requested the National Treasury to see if we can decentralise the Government Chemist so that we at least have regional offices that can assist in expediting investigations. Currently, only one lab deals with samples from across the country. The same applies to the DCI. When they do ballistics and other investigations, their laboratory is not adequately resourced. If this House puts in even Ksh1 billion only to these two important institutions, it will make a big difference in expediting investigations, and we shall do this very fast. We not only need both the equipment and decentralisation of these institutions, but we also need specialised human resources to be hired at a cost that can be retained. When I visited the DCI lab, they told me that their struggle relates to their scheme of service. The scheme of service is not good enough. The salaries and allowances are so low that they cannot maintain to retain specialists in government service. Every time our specialists get opportunities in the private sector, we lose them. There is a need to support these two institutions to enable them to hire and retain high-calibre forensic investigators to expedite investigations. However long it takes, because of the challenges that we have, I promise Hon. Martha Wangari that we will do everything humanly possible within the resources that we have to unravel the unfortunate incident that happened to her constituent. On the question by Hon. Millie Odhiambo, most of our fishing waters are generally international, especially those with proper fish for human consumption, like Lake Turkana, Lake Victoria and the Indian Ocean. It is important to note that as we deal with these issues, we must work with the neighbouring countries. Just the other day, I was with Hon. Nabuin in Todonyang. Part of the problem the people of Todonyang are facing is the shared borders and the fact that the fish resources do not understand which country they belong to. They keep moving from one corner to the other, especially when you deal with fresh waters, which are better breeding grounds. As I have indicated in my Statement, it is important to continue working with and have good working relations with our neighbours. On the question of zoning, it is the responsibility of the Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs working together with the county governments to establish The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "proper zones where fishing happens. This designation has been done in some areas, while it has not been done in others. It is important for this House and my Ministry to work with the Ministry of Mining, Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs to ensure the designation is clear. In fact, the associations that deal with fishing in different parts of the country within the lakes and the sea regions already know the areas designated for various groups, including the cooperatives that work within those areas. It is important that they keep observing those regulations. Perhaps we need a greater involvement of the county governments because they understand the local economy. The people working in those areas should ensure harmonious relationships and better management of the people out there. I agree with the Whip of the Minority Party that fighting over fish resources is one of the greatest causes of death in those water bodies. As I said, when I went to Todonyang, I discovered that the conflict within the water is about fishing between our people and our neighbours. This problem has caused a lot of suffering to a number of fishermen because they are fighting over resources, including fishing nets, fishing boats and fishing areas. There are also problems with cartels. In all these businesses, we have cartels in different places. Some cartels want to control the fishing economy. Hon. Speaker, as I said, working with the county governments is important to ensure the issues are dealt with. On the issue raised by Hon. Ruweida on the problems facing rescue operations in the ocean, I agree that the Kenya Coast Guard, based in the Ministry of the Interior and National Administration, has been established. This is the other area that we… Even when I visited Lake Turkana, the biggest problem was that only one boat existed, and about eight officers were manning the lake. With such an expansive lake, there were not enough human resources. In our next hiring of police officers, working together with this House, we will be looking for resources to ensure we do it before the end of this financial year. We will ensure that a number of recruited officers become Coast Guards. In the next financial year, we are also planning to increase the number of boats to help not only in rescue operations but also patrol and provide security within our inland and international waters. I have summed this Question with the one by Hon. Nabuin on the Question of our waters. I have responded to Hon. Ruweida. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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