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"content": "Hold on, Cabinet Secretary. There is a point of order."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I have keenly been following the answer by the Cabinet Secretary. He has done very well, but he seems to imply that most units may not be deservingly created. He has to be clear on that because they only came up in 2017 and 2021. He does not seem to believe they were deservingly created but only for political reasons. Could he clarify that particular point so that Kenyans and people listening to this know that they either deserve those divisions or do not deserve them?"
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"content": "I think you misunderstood him. He did not say they do not deserve. He said the pressure to create those units seemed to heighten around election time. That is how I understood him. That does not mean they are undeserving. It is just the timing and the amount of pressure put on the establishment to do so. That is how I understood the Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, when you listen to it with your third ear, you notice that he is now making a regulation that will control creation. There is that implication."
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