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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, please, give the Chairperson of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations time to listen to my directive."
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"content": "DIVISIONS WITHIN NYAMIRA COUNTY ASSEMBLY"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Last week on 1st April, 2025, I raised a Statement under Standing Order No.53(1) before the House on the happenings within the County Assembly of Nyamira County. It was on the division that had led to the creation of two factions of county assemblies within the County of Nyamira. Your office directed that this matter be handled with the utmost urgency. I want to report to the House that on 8th April, 2025, the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations had a meeting with the two factions of the County Assembly of Nyamira, together with presentations from the Office of the Controller of Budget. In view of the urgency surrounding this matter, and to ensure that there is restoration of normal operations within the County Assembly o Nyamira, I seek that the Chairperson of the Committee gives a progress report to the House next week. Thank you."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. As you are aware or as informed by the Senator for Nyamira County, we called the warring parties from the County Assembly of Nyamira the day before yesterday, Monday, and we listened to them. The only challenge that we have is that the matter is in court. We, therefore, cannot reach a decision because it will be prejudice of the court. However, we will submit the report. We have asked our legal team to advise us accordingly. It is important for us to note that we are not in court. They are the ones who are in court. God willing, we will try our best to submit the report next week, Thursday."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Chairperson. That is good commitment. Looking at the time, I am constrained to go to Order No.8, but I can give chance to two Members from both sides. We will start with Sen. Olekina. Kindly stick to the Statement that you are commenting on."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This is a House of union. I always say that this House unites the entire country. When we have a crisis in terms of The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the management of our counties, it behooves all of us to come together and come up with a solution. The Statement raised by Sen. Dullo should worry all of us. This is because the county chief officers are tasked with the day-to-day running of those counties. Hearing that the County Government of Isiolo does not have the 32 chief officers begs a big question: who is running that county? According to the PFMA Act, the chief officers have got a fiducial responsibility to ensure that the funds are utilised well. It is the chief officer who has to sign when funds are being withdrawn from the Controller of Budget. So, we must all take this issue of Isiolo County not having chief officers very seriously. We need to, first, sit with the Controller of Budget to understand how funds are being utilised. Is it an issue of Own Source Revenue? When you think about it, you will realise that Isiolo County does not have a lot of Own Source Revenue. They, therefore, use the shareable revenue, the revenue that we, in this House, divide for our counties. That is an issue that must be dealt with. Secondly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I hope that the Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Protection can take that matter seriously. That Committee should travel to Isiolo County to deal with the issue for us to understand how we are managing our counties. The issue of Nyamira County also concerns me. How can we have two county assemblies? It is ridiculous. We know that we have one county assembly that should meet in the county assembly premises, unless it is gazetted that they are going to be meeting elsewhere. If the Senate Plenary decides to host its meeting elsewhere, it must be gazetted. So, these are very simple things that need to be dealt with. It is just a matter of adhering to the rule of law and follow through. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope that the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations will not deal with the issues of courts. Some matters are sub-judice, but when it is the issue that relates to the supervision of the counties by the Senate, that is a matter we should move very expeditiously---"
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"content": " Just a minute, Sen. Olekina. Chairperson on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, do you have a point of order or point of information?"
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"content": "It is a point of information. I want to inform the House and the Senator for Narok County that as much as we appreciate that there must be only one venue for the county assembly, they have gazetted another venue four hours ago, and they call it County Mashinani. They have officially gazetted four venues. Also, the County Assembly Members---"
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