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"content": "a fact that Sen. Omtatah is indeed my senior? Is it not a fact that he is neither 10 years old nor three years old? In fact, maybe I am mistaken, but Sen. Omtatah is indeed, as you have stated, a senior elder. Sen. Cherarkey himself has acknowledged this. So, where is the discrimination? That is simply a statement of fact. I also wish to draw your attention to the fact that Sen. Cherarkey stood on the Floor of the House and requested that elders be brought to advise the two female leaders who had an altercation here in Parliament. I must say, I do not understand this approach. I feel I am being diverted and I would like to complete my train of thought."
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"content": " Can we go back to the point of order raised by Sen. Omtatah on substantiating your claims?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am wiser. I understand that if I have to substantiate my claims on the Floor of the House, I must provide the context of the conversation. However, I do not believe this is a conversation I want to bring to the Floor. Therefore, in light of this, I will withdraw and apologise to Sen. Omtatah. I do not wish to disclose to the public the advice Sen. Omtatah gave me. By doing so, I would not do justice to this prestigious House. I would like to conclude my points on devolution. As I was saying, while deliberating on this Floor, we must remember that we are not here permanently. Some of us have ambitions beyond the Senate and envision ourselves as governors of various counties. We have a former governor here sitting in the House today, Sen. Mandago. I recall very well that during his tenure as governor, he opposed certain pieces of legislation and reports that originated from this House. Now, as a Senator, he finds himself conflicted on some matters. That is why I want to emphasize that going forward, I support and add my voice to the work of the Committee. I am speaking as a Senator. However, in the near future, I will be a governor. Therefore, I would like to executive devolution and make sure that we are well represented in our county assemblies."
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This being a House of record, I have heard Sen. Gloria say that sometimes Sen. Mandago is conflicted. For avoidance of doubt, because I do not even want her to substantiate, allow me to inform her that with the clarity of mind that I have no conflict of interest, whatsoever in my previous and current roles. I know the distinction like day and night."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish her well in her aspirations of becoming a governor, but she should take lessons from elders like me."
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"content": " Sen. Wafula, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda, kwa nafasi hii. Kwa heshima, nasimama kwa hoja ya nidhamu jinsi nilivyouliza. Sio vyema na haki Seneta mwenzangu, Sen. Gloria, kutoa hoja zisizoweza kudhibitishwa. Amesema kuwa Sen. Mandago huwa na mtafaruku na hawezi kuwa na msimamo katika masuala fulani katika Biunge hili. Hata hivyo, amekosa kufafanua wapi, vipi na lini. Seneta mtajika aliyekuwa Gavana wa Uasin Gishu hawezi kuelewa madai ama hoja ambazo haziwezi kudhibitishwa. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba umshurutishe Seneta mwenzangu kuweka bayana yale aliyosema ama aondoe hoja hiyo kwa sababu ya heshima ya Bunge la Seneti."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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"content": " Sen. Wafula, Sen. Mandago amemsamehe Sen. Gloria. Amesema hana haja ya Sen. Gloria kuthibitisha maneno aliyosema. Alifafanua maneno yaliyosemwa na Sen. Gloria. Kwa hivyo, tuyaachie hapo kisha tumpe nafasi aendelee na hoja zake."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for clarifying that we should not mourn more than the bereaved. I want to conclude by saying that as we protect devolution, we have to ensure that we think of the future and not just our current positions. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on the matters that are going on in Isiolo, Nyamira and all other counties that have some challenges here and there, I urge my fellow Senators to put in 100 per cent understanding that we are all gubernatorial candidates at some point. We are not here to protect the interest of any office, but to protect the systems in devolution. We have sustainable frameworks of execution to ensure that everyone at the grassroots level gets development that is owed to them."
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