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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you can go back to the HANSARD and it will help you make a fair ruling. One can use anything that happens in this House to reinforce a debate. The reason why the Governor of Trans Nzoia County has a problem with his deputy is because deputies and their governors have problems all the time. I do not find myself out of order when I quote a governor who was brought before this House claiming that they have a problem with her deputy. She said that the deputy was chauvinist against her at that time. I am not the one saying that. The governor said that in her evidence in this House. I do not find that to be out of order. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is not just the issue of Governor Kawira, but a number governors have come to this House, including the Deputy Governor of Siaya County that I have referred to. This is because of the problem that we see with deputy governors and their governors. Those problems make their world of working very difficult. What is the wrong with me using an example of what was brought in this House to show constraints between governors and their deputies? How am I out of order? That is stifling debate. That is why I find that point of order frivolous."
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"content": " Sen. Eddy, that point of order has been found to be valid by the Chair. Therefore, do not use that Standing Order. Sen. Mandago, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "(Sen. Orwoba spoke off record)"
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"content": "Order, Senator Gloria!"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to stand. Sen. Eddy started very well in his submission on this serious matter of devolution. He had taken a good trajectory that leadership needs responsibility and it must be taken seriously. However, according to Standing Order No.122, he is defying the ruling of the Chair and wants to argue with the Speaker. Sen. Eddy said that Meru men are chauvinists and that was the submission of the Governor of Meru and not male leaders from Meru County. So, Sen. Eddy, I think you are confusing matters. We would be in agreement if Sen. Eddy said, “Governor Kawira alleged.” However, it is wrong to try and brand an entire community of Meru men as chauvinists yet I know that the Senator of Meru County is a serious supporter of women leaders in this country. I know that men in this Senate and Parliament support women leadership. This House has never been biased when it comes to impeachment. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this very House impeached the Deputy Governor for Kisii, who is a man, without mercy because he failed in his roles. Therefore, the Senator is closely---"
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"content": "Sen. Orwoba:"
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"content": " Sen. Gloria, you are getting very close to catching my eye. I will throw you out of the House. Let the Senator be heard in silence."
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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, and especially if you are aspiring to be a governor. A governor who has served two terms is on his feet---"
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