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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Eckomas Mutuse, Member for Kibwezi West."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I rise to support this Bill by drawing an important parallel. Twenty years ago, it was not feasible for an ordinary Kenyan to own a motorcycle. However, we have seen many local assemblies of motorcycles through progressive tax interventions and reforms by previous regimes, beginning with President Kibaki’s administration, which culminated in Legal Notice No. 112 of 2020. As a result, ordinary Kenyans are now able to afford motorcycles. I draw this parallel to suggest that if this amendment intends to spur the local assembly of transformers, then the motorcycle industry is a relevant model. However, as we do so, I have also looked at the Memorandum of Objects and Reasons, which reads as follows: “The principal object of this Bill is to amend the Excise Duty Act to remove excise duty on imported, fully assembled electric transformers.” Therefore, I request my very good friend, Hon. Kimani, as he replies, to also clarify whether the object includes ‘parts’ because that is not listed in the Bill as part of the reasons."
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"content": "I support the Bill to the extent that we want to spur local manufacturing. I request the Committee move further and develop regulations akin to those on motorcycles. If you are removing duty on transformer parts, it is because you do not have local capacity, but that cannot be perpetual. You have to provide a certain period. As Hon. Murugara said, if we have copper in the country yet we are importing parts made of copper from China, we need to exploit our copper so that in five years, we can make those parts and not need to import them anymore. That way, we will be looking at the economy holistically. We should not ever import parts; we should explore our minerals and make our own parts to retire some of the tariffs as we build local capacity. Most importantly, I want to understand whether the principal object of this amendment includes 'parts' or whether it is just about imported full transformers."
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"content": "Secondly, as a lawyer, I am interested in the effective date of this amendment. Is it immediately after Parliament passes the Bill and the President assents to it? Is it being The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "backdated, or is it on a future date? As we make decisions, we need to know what we are getting into."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you very much. Hon. Agnes Pareyio, Member for Narok North."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. This Bill will remove the 20 per cent excise duty on imported transformers and transformer parts and facilitate the assembling of transformers in Kenya. Electricity is very important, especially in rural areas. Young men are moving to towns in search of jobs. The moment they have electricity in their villages, they can create jobs for themselves."
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"content": "In a constituency like the one I represent, secondary schools and learning institutions are not connected to electricity. The other day, a woman was delivering in a maternity ward, and the matron had to use her phone to assist the woman because some health centres do not have electricity. This Bill is important because it will ensure that all villages get connected. Electricity connectivity in my constituency is less than 10 per cent. I support this Bill to ensure that all villages have electricity. We need electricity. When a Member of Parliament is in their constituency, everybody approaches them because they need electricity."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Order, Hon. Pareyio. There is a point of order by Hon. Mwirigi, Member for Igembe South. What is out of order, Hon. Mwirigi?"
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