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"content": "this, but again we come up with a new law that forgets that the issues here are finances and distribution. It will be a disservice to women. What we should do is to find an innovative way. I hope that Sen. Gloria will meet me outside this platform, so that we can consult on how we can holistically look at existing infrastructure and ensure that, one, money goes to those infrastructures that exist. Secondly, Madam Temporary Speaker, we need to invest in what exists becomes the issue of distribution, which is the only way we can think about counties and the communities that are proposing this Bill to ensure that in the existing Basic Education Act of 2017, perhaps we could explore something like Article 189 that allows cooperation between the national Government and county governments. They can create a committee that ensures that what already exists under the Ministry of Education can be devolved into the counties to help hasten the process of being able to give those powers to our girls in schools. Doing a whole new law when one exists that has not been funded properly would be a disservice to women. Madam Temporary Speaker, that is my caution and I am mixed at this point whether I support or not. However, I wanted to give caution that this is a danger that might take away from the gains that women have made in the number of the Bills and policies that exist. I wish that both the Secretariat and the Senator who has sponsored this Bill can sit together and look at how we can empower the policies and the Act that exist, to ensure that it gets money, infrastructure for distribution and make sure that we can get the sanitary towels to our women. I thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Chimera, please proceed."
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"content": "Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kuna fursa hii ili nichangie kuhusu Mswada huu wa Sen. Gloria Orwoba. Kwanza, ningependa kumpongeza sana Sen. Gloria Orwoba, kwa sababu yeye ni Seneta mteule lakini tunaona kazi anayoifanya hapa Bungeni. Nilikuwa na wasiwasi kwa sababu nimemuona kwa mabango katika sehemu mbalimbali za nchi yetu, akiashiria kwamba yeye ni mkereketwa mkuu wa swala hili. Vile vile, Seneta huyu amefika hapa Bungeni akiwa amevalia nguo iliyokuwa na rangi nyekundu kwa sehemu zake za siri. Kumbe ilikuwa ni ishara kwamba alikuwa anamchakato wa kuhakikisha kuwa ameleta Mswada huu ambao ni wa maana sana katika nchi yetu. Ningependa kumpongeza sana kwa Mswada huu. Vile vile ningependa kunakili semi za Sen. Eddy Oketch kwamba kumekuwepo ama kunayo sheria tayari kuhusu swala hili. Walakini, ningetaka kumueleza kwamba nimeona sheria hii imeweza kunukuu kipengele fulani cha 18 cha Sheria ya Basic Education Act na hiyo ni kuonyesha kwamba Sen. Gloria amepiga msasa sheria ambazo zipo kwa sasa kuhusu swala hili la visodo. Bi. Spika wa Muda, wanafunzi wetu wa kike, hasa wale wanaotoka mashinani, wameteseka. Ukiangalia zile sehemu za ndani za nchi hii, kama Kaunti zetu za North Eastern, kwa mfano, kaunti za Wajir, Marsabit na hata Kaunti yangu ya Kwale, kuna sehemu za ndani kama vile Shesheni, eneo Bunge la Lungalunga, Ngathini, eneo Bunge la LungaLunga na Kaza Moyo, eneo Bunge la Kinango. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Hizi ni sehemu ambazo wanafunzi wetu wa kike wakifika wakati wa mwezini na hawajapata fursa ya kupata visodo, inakuwa hali ngumu kwao kuenda shuleni. Inakuwa hali ya aibu zile siku mbili au tatu ambazo wanapitia hali ya maumbile yao ya kiubinadamu. Inakuwa dhiki na aibu kwao. Inafika wakati wanatumia hata vitambara ili kuhakikisha kwamba wameweza kuzidhiri siku zao za mwezi kibinafsi. Ikiwa sheria hii itatekelezwa na ukweli tutapata fursa ya Serikali Kuu na serikali zetu za ugatuzi kuhakikisha kwamba visodo vinasambazwa katika kila shule ya upili ama ya msingi ili wanafunzi wetu wa kike wavipate. Itakuwa hali ya afueni kwao kwa sababu kwa sasa ni aibu sana kwa mwanafunzi yule hawezi kupata visodo. Sio kwamba hawana uwezo. Wakati mwingine, utapata familia zingine kule mashinani wana uwezo lakini kufikia hizo visodo ni hatua na inakua bei ghali sana na wanashindwa kuzipata. Kwa hivyo, nampongeza sana Sen. Gloria kwa hili wazo lake la kuhakikisha kwamba Serikali ime chukua jukumu la kuhakikisha kwamba visodo vimesambazwa katika kila kona na shule ya nchi ili yule msichana ambaye anahitaji visodo apate haki yake, pasipo kumjua mtu yeyote, au kuenda kwa ofisi, either ya mzee wa mtaa, chifu ama mbunge. Sisi wanasiasa tunatumia swala hili kufanya siasa. Sio vyema kwamba unamdhalilisja mtoto wa kike ili ufanye siasa yako. Ikiwa wewe ni kiongozi na unahitaji kusaidia jamii kwa kuwapatia wanawake wetu visodo, tunakuomba ufanye vile kwa njia ambayo inastahili, wala sio kuwatumia wasichana wetu kufanya siasa. Vile vile, ningependa kumpa Sen. Gloria mawazo kwamba, tumeona ameweka kamati mbili katika sheria hii. Kamati hizo zimepewa nguvu za ajabu sana ya kwamba wao ndio watasimamia suala hili lote, kuanzia kupata fedha, kufanya mipangilio na usambazaji wa hivyo visodo. Namuomba aangalie hapo maanake tunajua kwamba fedha ikitoka kwa Serikali Kuu ikienda kwa Kamati ambayo tunaona kuwa imeteuliwa na watu binafsi, hatujui uwajibikaji utakuwaje katika kamati hiyo. Vile vile, magavana wetu watakua na hali ya atiati kuipatia kamati ya kaunti kufanya kazi hii ya kusambaza visodo kupata fedha hizi. Tunajua hali ya kiuchumi ni ngumu. Nimeona ile kamati ni lazima ipate aidha allowance ama kiinua mgongo fulani ili wafanye kazi hii. Kwa hivyo, Sen. Gloria, nakuomba uangalie suala hili, Vipengele vya 12 na tatu. Hizo kamati ni nyingi, na vile vile zina majukumu ambayo ni ya nguvu sana na inaweza kukupatia shida na viongozi wengine. Bi Spika wa Muda, tayari, akina mama wetu ambao ni women representatives wana mfuko ambao unaitwa the National Government Affirmative Action Fund (NGAAF). Ningependa kukutaarifu kwamba mimi nilikuwa mratibu mkuu wa kwanza kusimamia fedha hii katika Kaunti ya Kwale, wakati ambapo kiongozi wetu alikuwa Mhe. Mwenda zake marehemu Zainabu Kalekye Chidzuga, Mwenyezi Mungu amrehemu, amsamhehe dhambi zake, na amuweke mahali pema, palipo na wema. Tulifanya miradi kama hii lakini hakukuwa na sheria. Ilikuwa tu, mtu au kiongozi anaamka na kusema leo naomba nisambaze visodo. Wewe kama mratibu mkuu huna budi ila kuhakikisha umetafuta fedha na umeziweka katika ule mradi na huo mradi umefanyika. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Chimera",
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"content": "Leo hii, tunaona sheria ya NGAAF iwehakikisha kwamba women representatives wetu wamepewa fursa ya kutafuta hivi visodo na kuvisambaza nyanjani ili wanafunzi wetu wafaidike na hivi visodo. Najua viongozi hapa watasema mbona tayari kuna sheria kuhusu visodo, kwa nini tulete sheria ingine kupitia Sen. Gloria Orwoba. Ningependa kuwataarifu kwamba hata kama hio sheria ipo, bado lile jukumu la kuhakikisha wanafunzi wetu wamepata visodo wote sawia, kila mmoja bila kubagua au kujulikana, haijaweza kutekelezwa vilivyo. Hivyo basi, ningependa kumuomba Sen. Gloria kupitia sheria hii, azungumze na hao viongozi wengine wakiwemo women representatives kwa sababu ikifika kule Bunge la pili, wanaweza kuleta shida na sheria hii. Hata hivyo, Sen. Gloria, nina imani kwamba, mkizungumziana tutapitisha sheria hii na itaweza kumuokoa yule mwanafunzi ambaye hajui lolote na yeyote, na ni mchochole, aweze kupata visodo hivi na kuendelea na majukumu yake kukaa shule afanye mitihani yake na ahitimu. Mwisho wa siku, inshallah tumuone katika Bunge kama hili pia yeye akizungumzia masuala ya wanawake wenzake. Kwa hayo, nampongeza Sen. Gloria kwa Mswada huu na ninauunga mkono. Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mumma",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Sen. Mungatana."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana MGH",
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, many years ago, when I was in class seven, a very strange happening took place. I was in Arap Moi Primary School, Ngao. Those days, the classrooms had very large windows, which were not covered. So, you could jump out or into the classroom. There were no doors. That is the school I went to from standard five to seven. Of course, it is much better now. Madam Temporary Speaker, the strange happening was that we were in class and then we were about to go for a break. One of the very bright girls just stepped on one of the desks and jumped out of the window. I never understood what was happening. Most of the boys at that age, did not know what was happening. Many years later, I came to understand that the young girl then was having her periods. In our custom those days, it was very, very secretive thing. Men or boys like us were not supposed to know what was happening and men were not supposed to discuss what was happening. It was a secret thing because you were told that there are things that girls go through that you are not supposed to know. There was a custom of secrecy around it. Little did I know many years later, that custom of secrecy in Tana River County in those days was a custom of oppression for our young girls; our young daughters. It was kept so secret that the girls were supposed to miss school, go and hide, three, four days later they would appear. We also did not know what was happening as boys. Today I stand to support this Bill because when I came to understand what was happening, I told myself that when I grow up and God gives me daughters, it will never happen that they would be ashamed of what God has so graciously given them. Madam Temporary Speaker, my wife and I have made it a custom that all those wonderful girls that God has given us, every one of them who we say, ‘has started’--- in Kiswahili we say, amevunja viungo--- we would take her out and sit with her for a beautiful dinner and tell her, ‘Mommy, God makes you more beautiful as you grow up’. Because the mum would give me the information. I tell them that ‘what has happened to you means, God is making you more beautiful. Your hair will grow longer, look prettier, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana MGH",
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"content": "your face will be softer and you will stop being a tomboy. You have to behave in this and this way’. That is the way we bring up all our children. Madam Temporary Speaker, why am I saying this? It is because here in town, it might be normal. However, the communities we come from, and I am talking about the communities in a place like Tana River County, where we are so conservative still---"
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"content": "(An hon. Member spoke off the record)"
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"content": "My colleague here is telling me, Kajiado too. We are conservative, and we need to speak out and tell our people that time has come to tell our children it is a normal thing, it is a beautiful thing and makes us grow. God has made it in this way, so that we can procreate at the appropriate time. When there is a law to buttress this beautiful happening, it is our duty and call to stand with that kind of law. I congratulate Sen. Orwoba for this Bill. She has been very consistent on this. I urge her to soldier on. I heard in her submissions that there may be problems and issues when it goes to the National Assembly."
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