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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Order! We will not go there. The Leader of the Majority Party, you will take two minutes at most."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to agree with the Leader of Minority that this is a matter that has been dealt with in the past. Hon. Otiende Amollo knows that this matter has been dealt with in the past. In fact, Senior Counsel Otiende is the one who has been teaching me how to interpret the Constitution as a lawyer. He usually tells me that when you read the Constitution, you do not read one part of the Constitution to the exclusion of the other. He has read for us Article 152(3) which says: “A Cabinet Secretary shall not be a Member of Parliament.” However, Article 152(4) says that each person appointed as a Cabinet Secretary assumes office by swearing or affirming faithfulness to the people and the Republic of Kenya upon taking oath. That is the point when someone becomes a Cabinet Secretary and, therefore, Hon. Ruku is not a Cabinet Secretary. What I want to agree with Hon. Otiende is that Hon. Ruku ought not to sit in the House. It was wise of him to leave the Chamber at the time – Hon. Junet said that you cannot skin a monkey when it is staring at you – we were debating the nominees. In this 13th Parliament, the Speaker himself was an elected Senator for Bungoma County and the same question arose. It was the same Member, Hon. Otiende, who raised the issue that Speaker, Hon. Moses Masika Wetangula, was an elected Senator and, therefore, he ought not to qualify for election as the Speaker. The Speaker made a decision on that because he had not taken Oath of Office as Speaker. As Hon. Junet said, Gen. Nkaissery was appointed the Cabinet Secretary of Internal Security and Coordination of National Government when he was still a Member of this House. It is similar to the former Cabinet Secretary for Energy and Petroleum, Sen. Charles Keter, who was appointed when he was still the Senator of Kericho County. Therefore, you do not become a Cabinet Secretary until you are formally appointed and sworn into office. The exclusion is only upon appointment, not nomination. We were right in place to vet Hon. Ruku and consider him for appointment. He should not be in the House. I think wise counsel prevailed on him. He appeared in the House today to transact business, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "ahead of this business, because of his enthusiasm and diligence in serving the people. He kindly excused himself to have a cup of tea when we got to this business. I am sure he is watching."
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"content": "COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR"
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"content": "APPOINTMENT OF SERVING PUBLIC AND CIVIL SERVANTS TO OTHER OFFICES"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " I do not think I need to say anything on this matter. As recent as when we passed the appointment of the current Cabinet Secretary of Energy and Petroleum and the Cabinet Secretary of the National Treasury and Economic Planning, the Speaker gave a ruling on this matter less than four months ago. Let alone Nkaissery and the rest. We have proper precedent. Hon. Otiende knows this and I am sure he has addressed himself to this matter. I will not spend energy on this matter. The gentleman and lady are rightly being debated before the House. He will do what is needful in case this House approves him. That is the ruling I have made on this matter. I do not want to spend much time on this. Do not raise a point of order if you want to speak on it. I will not allow any going forward. We will debate and make a decision either way. The Member of Baringo North."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joseph Makilap",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the approval of the two Cabinet Secretary nominees. I have for some time known the gentleman, Hon. Ruku, as a Member of Parliament for Mbeere North. As the Leader of the Majority Party said, Hon. Ruku has been a very good defender of government and the policies that come before us. Sometimes, even during troubled times in this House, he stands tall to protect us from aggression. Regarding Hanna Wendot Cheptumo, I want to inform the House that she comes from one of the areas ravaged by banditry in my constituency. I knew her before she married the late Senator of Baringo County. This is a very diligent woman who can deliver on her mandate. It is unfortunate that she got shocks facing Members of Parliament. In the process, she made statements that are in my opinion not right or good for this country. She is a good person to become the Cabinet Secretary for Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage. That is not what she is because I have known her for some time. As the Leader of the Majority Party said, I humbly request Members of Parliament to find favour in their hearts to forgive her if she has made a public apology. I apologise on her behalf and as a Member of Parliament that from that area because that was wrong. It should never happen again, especially from someone interested in that particular position to protect the interests of both female and male genders. I am very sorry for what happened because I know that is not her behaviour. She has the ability to run the Ministry. She has run the Cheptumo and Company Advocates law firm for many years when Cheptumo was busy with politics. Hon. Temporary Speaker, that woman stood firm with her family. I thank the President for finding favour to nominate Hanna Cheptumo as the Cabinet Secretary of Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage. Her service to the people of Kenya is also a way of the President considering the people of Baringo who lost their Senator one month ago. This lady has been reeling in pain. It is only good that we find favour to give her an opportunity to serve as a Cabinet Secretary in this country. On behalf of the people of Baringo North, I thank the President and request these Members of Parliament with a lot of humility. This lady is still recovering from the loss of her husband, Sen. Cheptumo, who passed on. Let us not add pain to the children of that family. As one of your colleagues, I ask that you kindly forgive and find favour. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joseph Makilap",
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"content": "Thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Farah Maalim."
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"speaker_name": "Dadaab, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I join my colleagues in supporting this Motion. Hon. Ruku has been a Member of this Parliament for the last two and a half years. You and I have sat on that Chair many times. We know how effective a debater he was. He has no hypocrisy. When he supports an idea, he supports and explains it. I have been with him in media houses on a number of occasions. I really liked how he defended what he believed in. You have already made a clear point that he only becomes a Cabinet Secretary upon taking Oath of Office after he resigns from being a Member of Parliament. As for the lady, Madam Wendot, I have served in this House with her husband, the late Senator Cheptumo. He was one of the finest legislators with whom I have had an opportunity to serve."
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