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"content": " Hon. Shakeel."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 1 of the Bill be further amended by inserting the words “immediately upon assent by the President.” immediately after the words “upon publication in the Gazette” I agree with most of the amendments. The Hon. Chairman has made clear that they should commence upon publication in the gazette, adding, “upon assent.”"
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"content": "The biggest problem that we have had is implementation. If we are not very clear, these people who understand English only in their own terms and not in the terms that we have understood, will now start creating mountains out of mole hills. They will say that it shall commence upon publication in the Kenya Gazette. There has been a history of delaying the publication in the Kenya Gazette. Therefore, I was hoping and praying that Hon. Chairman could add additional words, ‘immediately upon assent by the President,” so that we are clear. However, since you are the legal mind, you will tell me what you think. If he can put a specific date, for example, in two or three months, it will be really beneficial."
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"content": "I want to bring to your attention the fact that we have a very tough time with the financial regulatory authorities in other countries. Therefore, what this Anti-Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Bill is doing is a positive step. Every time I hear the statements that we do not have a strong political will to combat financial crime, we do not have adequate resources, and we do not have clear guidelines. Those are the things we hear at all international conferences, but we cannot say much. I am pleading with the Hon Chairman to improve it so that we know exactly when it is going to be gazetted and implemented."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady."
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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Chairman."
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"content": "(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record)"
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"content": "Leader of the Majority Party, you are out of order. Chair, Departmental Committee of Justice and Legal Affairs, proceed."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. There is always uncertainty when it comes to dates on when Acts of Parliament will commence. Where we have sometimes put dates, those dates have been overtaken by when the Acts are assented to. But we know for sure that once it is assented to, there will be no delay in gazetting it. Once it is gazetted, it becomes a part of our laws. That is how the public is notified that an Act has been assented to, and it has come into force. Usually, there is no delay. Let us not speculate. As soon as it is assented to, it will find itself in the Gazette . This is because we also have to cure the mischief which Hon. Shakeel is repeatedly saying, that we are in the grey book. We have to come out of that grey book."
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