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"content": " You cannot rise on a point of order before a Bill is seconded. Proceed to second."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second."
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"content": "I would like to say that the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill is an important Bill. You may remember that in the old days, the National Treasury used to give counties money in form of conditional grants, but now Parliament has come up with the idea of County Governments Additional Allocations Bill. This is in line with the aspirations to enhance devolution in this country. There is a misconception that is going on that the National Assembly is anti-devolution. There is no person with a sane mind who can oppose devolution. This is the only avenue we have that takes billions of shillings to the places where people live. Today, some counties in the country would not have seen money from the national Government in form of a billion if it were not for devolution. Previously, they never saw money because they used to be in the budgeting system of the centralised system of the Government. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are old enough to know that. They used to be told that their money had been put to security to defend them from enemies and other things. They never saw any development money in their lives."
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"content": "Counties have revamped our livelihoods. I know there are many shortcomings and people believe that there are big problems in counties like corruption and malpractices. All that can be addressed separately without killing the idea of devolution and the vision that the framers of this Constitution had in terms of making the livelihood of Kenyans better. Many developed countries in the world like Germany developed because they implemented devolution. They devolved money from the centre to where people live, farm, and get The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "healthcare. There is no way a country will achieve meaningful development or change the livelihood of their people without implementing devolution."
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"content": "When devolution came, it was supposed to disperse both power and resources to the ground. There is an on-going debate in the country on whether enough resources and functions have been devolved to the counties and whether some functions are still held at the national level. We need to have a national discourse to agree as a country whether we have devolved enough functions and resources to the counties. There are many things that can be done at the county level because that is where the rubber meets the road. If devolution can be implemented properly in comparison to what is happening now, I can assure that this country will not be the same. Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is a big debate going on in the country on whether in the last 10 to 12 years, devolution has achieved what it was intended to achieve. That is acceptable because even on the national Government, there is a debate whether it is doing the right thing or the wrong thing. Every day people accuse them of various issues like Social Health Authority (SHA) and other Government policies that are not working, but they continue improving in their service provision and keep on saying they are going to change. Devolution is also supposed to do the same. The things which are not working should work. We have not created devolution to enrich or make certain people billionaires. We have created devolution so that Kenyans can feel that power and resources reside with them in their villages. They do not need to come to Nairobi to do anything. You must do everything you intent to do whether it is healthcare, education, energy or roads. You must get any kind of development at the devolved unit where you stay."
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, the tag that is being peddled around that the National Assembly is anti-devolution cannot stand the test of time. We must stand with devolution because our own people, our constituents are part of counties. There is no constituency that is not part of a county; every constituency is part of a county. Therefore, the people the governor is leading are the same people who also voted for us. There is no way we can fight devolution. It is not right that we are branded as anti-devolution but, we must also be able to oversee. If the county government is not doing its work, it is our responsibility to point it out and say what has failed. I think Kenyans must now go back to the drawing board and ask themselves how we can improve and make devolution better for the benefit of all of us. How do we devolve more functions, resources and put accountability measures in place? If any county government misuses or misappropriates funds contrary to the law, then serious action needs to be taken in accordance with the law. That is when we are going to become a better society and benefit from the fruits of devolution."
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"content": "With those few remarks, I urge my colleagues to support this Bill and pass it. A lot of money contained in this Bill does not come from the exchequer, but it comes from donor funds. It is donor-funded from the World Bank which wants to improve our slums and build roads in our counties. Majorly, donor-funded programmes are contained in this Bill. If we oppose it, we will literally prevent county governments from accessing donor funding which is not good for us. Why should we refuse funding if a donor wants to improve health care in Migori or Homa Bay? Why should we refuse funding if a donor wants to improve our roads? That is not in our place to do. I, therefore, urge that we pass this Bill. We will discuss devolution holistically - where it is, where it has come from, and the direction we want it to go. I second"
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