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"speaker_name": "Nakuru County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Liza Chelule",
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"content": " Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda. Kama unavyojua, tuko ndani ya Bunge ambapo sisi sote tumechaguliwa na wananchi kuwawakilisha. Hakuna kiongozi anayefaa kumpeleka mwingine shule. Ninazungumza Kiswahili cha nyumbani, na hatuwezi kukilinganisha na Kiswahili cha Lamu au Mombasa."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Proceed."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Liza Chelule",
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"content": " Asante. Yale yote niliyosema yameeleweka na watu wangu. Pengine watu wake hawawezi kuelewa Kiswahili changu. Lakini nimechagua kuzungumza kwa Kiswahili kwa sababu ninataka watu walionichagua kuelewa ninachosema katika Bunge hili. Na watu wangu wanaelewa. Kwa hivyo, kuhusu Mhe. Ruweida, yeye ataendeleza masomo kule kwao. Samahani, amenipotezea muda. Huu ni Mswada unaoanzisha mkakati wa kuwasaidia wale wanaohitaji msaada. Wataweza pia kupata taarifa kuhusu mpango wa Serikali. Kwa hivyo, wanaponisikiliza hivi sasa, wanajua kuwa kama wao ni wajane, pia watapata usaidizi kutoka kwa Serikali yetu. Kitu cha maana ni mkakati unaoandaliwa na Serikali kwa ajili ya wananchi wake. Sisi ni tofauti katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Wale tunaowazungumzia ni wazee wasio na usaidizi wowote; hata hawana makazi. Mambo tunayojadili katika Bunge hili yamewekwa ndani ya Katiba ya Kenya. Kwa hivyo, Mswada uliowasilishwa hapa umetayarishwa ili kutoa mkakati mzuri wa kuwanufaisha wananchi wa Kenya. Mimi, kama Mwakilishi wa Nakuru, nimewasikiliza. Ninaunga mkono kwa asilimia mia moja."
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"content": " Asante. Sasa tumsikize Mhe. Caroli Omondi, ambaye atafuatwa na Mhe. Bady, kisha Mhe. Ruweida Obo. Alafu tutamsikiza Mheshimiwa Sabina Chege."
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"speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will try to be brief. Let me begin by acknowledging the commendable effort towards providing social protection for the vulnerable members of our society. I am aware that this forms part of the conditionalities agreed upon with the Bretton Woods institutions."
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"content": " Samahani, atakayefuata baada ya Mhe. Caroli Omondi ni Mhe. Bedzimba, si Bady. Nimeelewa."
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"content": " As much as that is the case, I foresee a few challenges which I believe we ought to point out in good time to avoid running into headwinds. What we are establishing here is a non-contributory social protection programme. That means the cost shall be borne fully by the National Treasury. The baseline indicator of poverty is what we refer to as the food poverty line. In other words, it outlines the nutritional or caloric requirements that the human body needs per day. This is then translated into monetary terms as food expenditure, which is used to draw the poverty line. If one refers to the latest review by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics, the food poverty line showed that the incidence of poverty ranged from 16.5 per cent in Nairobi County, which was the lowest, to about 82.7 per cent in Turkana County, which was the highest. That notwithstanding, there are other variances in between. If you look at Section 28(3), where we are listing the vulnerable—orphans, persons with disabilities, those affected by shocks, among others—one will clearly see that these categories are not a measure of poverty or need. We need to re-look this Bill and figure out the tool we are going to use to create a clear baseline of who a poor person is. The listed categories can be used for priority consideration The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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"content": "or first intervention. They cannot be the measure of poverty, just going by what I have said about the baseline poverty line."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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"content": "As a matter of fact, the risk I foresee is in the wording of Section 28, which says the objective is to provide social protection to all persons in need. In other words, somebody somewhere will go to court and say they are not being catered for. We will likely get a court order halting the entire process. Therefore, we need to be very careful with what we put in this Bill so that we identify the truly needy persons. Secondly, in the Memorandum of Objects and Reasons, the Leader of the Majority Party has not provided the projected cost of running such a programme. As a House, we need to know. I am sure that the Parliamentary Budget Office and the National Treasury have done some maths as to what this project will cost. As Parliament, we need to see that working."
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"content": "Thirdly, there are other forms of social protection yet we have only listed two here. That is cash transfer and transfers in kind. However, there are many forms of social protection. We have subsidised foodstuff like what happens in India, where the poor have special shops where they go to get their food. There could be waiver of certain Government fees when the poor want services. Some jurisdictions have free medical care. We are struggling with our SHIF and SHA. There is a component of community health workers."
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