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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Is there any interest in this? Prof Oundo, Member of Funyula."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the amendment under (b) is not clear. Probably, the Chairlady can explain a little bit. What problem are they trying to cure by saying: (2) “Despite sub-section (1), nothing in this Act confers upon The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the Board the power to perform functions that are under the mandate of other Government ministries, departments, trusts or agencies”?"
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"content": "I cannot fathom how a board can undertake a function that is not within their remit. I also do not understand which other ministry or department has the power or authority to undertake social protection services. The amendment is not clearly framed."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): You have made your point. Hon. Chairlady, can you kindly explain the rationale of Clause 9(b)."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Most times, boards execute or refer to mandates of another board or department. I sit with Hon. Nyikal in the Departmental Committee on Social Protection. We realised that some departments oversee trusts or agencies they are not supposed to. This amendment cures that problem by making departments specifically deal with their mandates."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you. I now give a chance to the Member of Seme."
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"content": " I rise to support this because of the definition of social protection. To a large extent, when we talk of social protection, people see cash transfers. They do not realise that even health insurance, agricultural subsidy or school feeding programmes are social protection. There is need for co-operation but without the amendment, conflict will always occur if we are not careful."
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"content": "I support."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Nyikal."
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