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"content": "Something has to be done around there because public funds must be protected even as the two assemblies fight. It is also an opportunity to re-look the County Governments Act, 2012 in terms of location of the sittings of county assemblies and even ourselves here. Probably this matter of Senate Mashinani has to be---"
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"content": " Your time is up, Sen. Osotsi. Proceed, Senator Methu."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker and thank you, Commissioner Joyce Korir. I also welcome back Sen. Eddy. He is a young legislator in this House. It always a pleasure to have him around here. My age mate, who now crossed over and took over from where I left. He is a bit older than me. First, I express my dissatisfaction and displeasure by a comment that has been made by the Chairman of the Committee, Senator Abbas. I wonder whether there was a legal mind in that Committee and a researcher advising them when the CoB said that there was nothing she could do to stop funds going to the County Assembly. Unless anything has changed, for as long as I know, the way funds are appropriated and withdrawn from the County Revenue Fund, requisitions are prepared by the Clerk of the County Assembly, and only transmitted to the CoB through the Chief Executive Committee Member (CECM) Finance. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on money or requisitions that go to the County Assembly there is no comma or full stop that is added by the CECM. Therefore, if indeed the CoB wanted to help in ensuring that money is not misappropriated in the County Assembly of Nyamira, she had the onus and the responsibilities on her. This is not an isolated case. May I invite you to look at our Constitution, Article 207(3), which states that- “Money shall not be withdrawn from a revenue fund unless the Controller of Budget has approved that withdrawal.” Every money that shall be misappropriated in the County Assembly of Nyamira, the responsibility will be on the CoB because she will have released that money and allowed the withdrawal of these funds from the County Revenue Fund. It is this Constitution that gives the CoB the powers she enjoys. I also want to draw your attention to Article 228(5) of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010 which states that - “The Controller of Budget shall not approve any withdrawal from a public fund unless satisfied that the withdrawal is authorized by law” All the monies that are going to the County Government of Nyamira, be it the County Assembly or the County Executive, the CoB must be satisfied. That is the reading of the law. It is not me who wrote this Constitution. If anything, I am just a farmer. There are many good advocates in this House."
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"content": "So the monies going to the County Government of Nyamira, be it the County Executive or the County Assembly, the CoB must say, “I am satisfied 100 percent that these withdrawals that are happening at the county level fund are backed by the law.” It is a very defeated argument by the Chairman of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations to come and say that the CoB said that she was helpless. It is not true. Requisitions that are coming from the county assembly are never prepared by the CECM for Finance, but by the Clerk who is the accounting officer of the county assembly. Many people want to say “oh, there is politics, there is a group that is aligned to the governor. There is another group that is aligned to where.” It does not matter. The matter has been brought to the Senate. It is for us to decide the legitimate of these two groups, so that the other group cannot continue withdrawing this money. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, some people are sitting in a corner calling themselves a county assembly. They have no legitimacy or conservatory order that stayed the impeachment of the Speaker. How, therefore, does the Speaker continue withdrawing money from the County Revenue Fund? There is no explanation that the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations can give to this House. They do not even require to go to Nyamira. What are they going to do? I want to ask as Sen. Wambua - is Senator Omogeni so inaccessible that we have to go and look for him in Nyamira? What does the Governor have to do in determination of a matter as to who is the legitimate County Assembly of Nyamira? I am disappointed. In fact, had we not got this amendment from Sen. Ojienda, that report of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations in my opinion, was completely underwhelming. Had we not got this amendment from Sen. Ojienda, I do not think we would have done justice to the people of Nyamira and the County Assembly. This is because the people who have the primary responsibility of oversight is the county assembly, not even the Senate. If the County Assembly cannot play their oversight role on the County Executive, therefore, even the reports that we shall be looking at, CPIC Chaired by Sen. Osotsi and CPAC Chaired by Sen. M. Kajwang’---"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this interim report. May I confirm to the House that I am a member of this Committee and that I was present when we interviewed the team that came from Nyamira."
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"content": "As Sen. Thang’wa said before he was stopped, we were dealing with two illegal groups and I think we made those observations. The first Mr. Temporary Speaker, was suspended, but there is nothing called suspension. Therefore, the Members of the Assembly were wrong to do the suspension. That was the first thing that we noted. The second thing is that they seem to have noted that because after suspending and crudely ejecting the Speaker, they were called to go to court and they went to apologize. It was after their apology that they came back and did the right thing - to impeach. According to the Standing Orders of Nyamira, which are like our Standing Orders, the Assembly has a right to impeach. During the impeachment, they even invited the Speaker and allowed Okero to defend himself. After the defense and after it was done procedurally, he was impeached procedurally. What happened and which surprised the committee, is the fact that at the point of being impeached, this Speaker who had been impeached, went to court and when he was given a small breather, although there was no ruling because we went through the court statements and there was nothing giving a stay, took advantage and suspended the clerk. That is how he came up with his own clerk and a parallel group started emerging. If you read the report, at the same time, after the Assembly had impeached successfully and according to the Standing Orders, they elected the Deputy Speaker to be the Speaker. Remember, the Deputy Speaker is a member of the county assembly. So, we are dealing with another illegality, because he was elected when he was still an MCA. Again, the Committee observed that we are now dealing with two illegal leaders. The impeached Speaker started holding his meetings because he could not be allowed to come to the premises by the MCAs who had elected their own Speaker. If you look at the recommendations and I will go straight to them, so that the committee is not blamed for the things that they did not do. If you read our observations properly, we have brought issues out, but if you go to the recommendation, I dare say I am the one who laid the report in this House on the 17th April, 2025. We have been blamed for 45 days, but we brought this report in 17 days. On 17th April, is when I laid the report on the Table. It is this House that delayed so the 45 days do not belong to us. We did our work within 17 days. We laid the report and we are waiting for our recommendations to be either accepted or rejected. These meetings should have taken place soon after the 17th. For that reason, Sen. Omogeni - and they are disrupting him now - it should come out very clearly that since we laid the report on the Table of the House on the 17th April, we cannot talk about 45 days. We gave our report on time. After giving the report on time, we gave two very strong recommendations, which no one is referring to in this House. Please do not blame the Committee for what they did not do. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what did we say in recommendation number one? We said pursuant to Section 7(b)(2) of the County Governments Act; whereas the sitting"
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