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"content": "impeached, he went to court, but was unable to secure an injunction. Therefore, he cannot, in any way, purport to sit. Whether he gazetted the sittings as he purported, naming three locations and referring to them as ‘Sittings Mashinani', the process itself is illegal. Any proceedings that transpired in those sittings are illegal. Therefore, even as we ask that the report affirms the nullity of those sittings, it is upon the rightful Speaker of the House to ensure that those proceedings are officially declared void. Lastly, regarding the issue raised by Members, we are dealing with two assemblies and the Chairperson of this committee alleged that the CoB indicated that she had received requisitions. Sen. Methu has attempted to walk us through the process of requisitioning funds from the CoB and the subsequent approval of such funds. There is a high likelihood of collusion between the office of the CoB and the legal team within the assembly. This is a serious issue that this House must thoroughly investigate as we work toward resolving this matter. I also agree with Sen. Olekina that, besides their---"
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"content": " Your time is up, Senator. We are running out of time. Please indulge me. Sen. Catherine Mumma, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker. I am the Vice-Chairperson of the Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations Committee. I would like to support the Motion as amended. I bring to the attention of the House that it is important we get the record right. I urge every Member to read the report thoroughly and examine the observations. Observation No.10(7) speaks to the nullity and illegality of county assembly sittings that were done outside the right location. That is part of what Hon. Sen. Ojienda has brought forward. The only observation missing pertains to bringing in the Ethics and Anti- corruption Commission (EACC). This is because the Committee resolved to visit Nyamira to find out what is happening on the ground. As it did so, we were aware that it has a myriad of cases before the courts. We are also cognisant of the need for some of those cases to be resolved. I believe some of those who have spoken have not even referenced the observations we made. They have instead erroneously bashed the committee’s on what it has said. As I conclude, it is important to state that the report was tabled and the House Business Committee scheduled it for discussion today. On the day the report was tabled, the hon. Senator for Nyamira County expressed dissatisfaction and requested the Hon. Speaker to refer the legal matters to the Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights. You will agree with me that every observation in our report pertains to legal matters. Therefore, even as the Committee prepares to visit Nyamira, the standing"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate"
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"content": "Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights is also preparing to examine this issue. I urge all of us to converge and understand that no Committee is unwilling to get to the bottom of the truth of this matter. As a House, we need to come together and take necessary action while respecting matters before the courts. At the same time, we must do whatever is within our power to ensure this issue moves forward. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as a decision is made and the Report is adopted, you might want to guide the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations on whether its planned activities to finalise this issue are still valid, given the comments that we have heard from colleagues. I support the Report and I will stop there for the time being. I thank you."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I also rise to support the report as amended. As much as we fight for the county assemblies to be semi-autonomous, we do not encourage this kind of behaviour displayed by this county assembly. Sitting outside the gazetted area for a county assembly is illegal. I went through the report, but the report is only showing what they have observed from the stakeholders. Without the amended report, which has been given by the Senator of Kisumu, the report has no other action. However, when it is amended, it has recommendations on the action to be taken. On the issue of facilitation of funds, we cannot stop the blame on the CoB. There is also the County Executive Committee Member (CECM) of Finance, who is the approver and releaser of the funds to the county assembly. When they do the Bunge Mashinani, before it is even gazetted, it must be passed through Motions by the county assembly. There must be concurrency, that there must be a Bunge Mashinani. After that, the gazetting must be done. If there is no concurrence with the county assembly, it is illegal for the Bunge Mashinani to take place. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as the action has concluded, we need to investigate on misappropriation of funds. We send the money for proper use, not for the political parties to fight each other and to divide the county assembly for their own agenda, so that they can benefit in one way or another. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, to avoid this, the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights (JLAHRC) and the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations must have a stand."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate"
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"content": "They are not supposed to give us the progressive report the way they did. They must have a concrete action for these matters to come to an end. If we leave matters as they are, other county assemblies might follow the example of the County Assembly of Nyamira. Subsequently, to avoid this, the two committees which have been assigned to work on this Motion, must give a very strict way forward on which action will take place. With these remarks, I support the report."
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