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"content": "Just a minute. Let me make my point. The SG is the custodian of all documents, including all agreements that the party signs."
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"content": " Just a minute, Sen. Sifuna. What is out of order, Sen. Eddy?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am rising under Standing Order No.101. There are many issues about it, but generally, Standing Order No.101 is about contents of speeches that we make in this House. I respect the SG of ODM Party who is also my Deputy Whip in this House. He has brought an argument on the agreement that ODM had with the Kenya Kwanza Alliance. There is a substantive conversation around what we must have in this House when having a conversation like the one that we have."
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"content": "That is something that I support. However, is it in order for that to be the basis for discussing the issue of division of revenue in this House, when that agreement has not been tabled in this House as required under our Standing Orders to the extent that there is a Motion that informs our debates here?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if we revert to that as a substantive issue that informs one’s speech in this House, then we will be taking the role of this Parliament away from us and start having discussions outside the Senate. We are actually taking away our role as Senators to debate issues in this House and giving it to forces outside the Senate."
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"content": "The reason I am saying this is because we have the issue of division of revenue. What happens for Senators in this House who are not party to that particular agreement? They need to participate in the conversation on the division of revenue. Is it in order for the Senator for Nairobi to bring that argument based on a document as a basis for us to discuss in this House?"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "May 21, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 30"
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"content": " Sen. Oketch, I have looked at Standing Order No.101 on contents of speeches. That is from Standing Order No.101(1) to (6), but I cannot see any contravention from what Sen. Sifuna is addressing."
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"content": "When you debate, you gather information from here and there as you put your points in order. We cannot limit debate in this House or require people to think in a certain way. That is why the Senate is respected because Senators can speak even for 20 minutes unlike the other House where they are given only two or three minutes to speak and sit down. So, let us not stifle debate, as long as he is not mentioning any names anyhow."
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