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"speaker_name": "Hon. Hanna Cheptumo",
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me a chance to clarify, especially on the questions that have been asked earlier. Sen. Veronica asked about the issue of funding. In order to reach many women, we require the funds. That is the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "challenge that is there, considering that the amount of money that had been given earlier, most of it has not been repaid back and it was supposed to be a revolving fund. However, subject to availability of funds, we shall be able to lend to as many groups as possible because we just require a group of 10 members and they do not require any security. The security is the chiefs, just the local leadership. These are people who know each other. So, there is no security required. Sen. Madzayo, we have a department of market linkages and we are working to ensure that our women products reach the markets. Definitely, as a Ministry, we are looking at an all-government approach. So, this Women Enterprise Fund is not working in isolation. We work with the other Ministries to ensure that we make use of the already existing structures. Sen. Abass asked about the sensitization of the women. We have the fund operators who are on the ground sensitizing women on how to access this credit. We use the same local administration to pass the information because that is where these women are. We work with them to ensure that in their normal meetings or in the local administration, women are sensitized on the need to borrow, so that they can also access funds for purposes of running their businesses. There is also an introduction of a Sharia-compliant product because of the Muslim culture and you know that they do not believe in interest. They believe in profits, if I am not wrong. We are trying to ensure that we capture all sectors. We are also intensifying information to ensure that we reach women in the marginalized areas. All these measures are in place to ensure that everyone - even if it means using the vernacular stations - knows what is happening but mostly, we have an all-government approach. We work with all the other sectors of the Government to ensure that we make use of the platforms that we have to pass the information. I cannot quite remember the question that was asked by Sen. Abass."
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"content": " Sen. Abass, you may repeat the question, please."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker Sir, considering that most women do not have title deeds and they do not own many properties, it is only men who own most of the land titles deeds, is there any other way or measures that can be used for women to access the Fund without title deeds or security?"
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. I think I will just reemphasize that in the Women Enterprise Fund, we do not ask for security. Security is just the local administration and their own groups because they know each other. There are officers who are there to ensure that they monitor and remind them. Sometimes it is not that they do not want to pay; it is because of monitoring. That is why digital platforms could not work. However, this one for borrowing one-on-one is what is helping, because we have their data and phone numbers. On Sen. Kisang’s question, civic education is what is very key. The women have to be reminded every time that this is a facility that belongs to all women. It is not for a special category of people. Civic education is being carried out at the constituency level and women are being educated through their forums. They are also meeting in churches The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "where they are told that this facility is there and it is available to anyone as long as you meet the minimum requirement of being at least 10 members. I know that some of this information has not reached to marginalized communities, but that is exactly what we shall be endeavoring to do to ensure that we reach out in all forums, that they are available to ensure that they get to know that this facility is available and they should make use of it. I thank you very much."
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me begin by congratulating the newly appointed Cabinet Secretary. I was with her in Narok two weeks ago. Madam Cabinet Secretary, knowing that you are the new kid on the block and women demand a lot from you, I have listened to the questions asked by my colleagues. It on this issue of women being able to borrow money and have access to that money. Are you in a position to devolve this Women Enterprise Fund? I am imagining of a woman in Baringo County or a woman in Narok County in Mosiro who cannot access this information through the phone and is also not able to come to Nairobi. How is that woman going to know that there is money that she can apply either individually or through a group? Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " You may proceed to respond."
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"content": " Thank you, hon. Member, for that question. If you remember in my answer initially, we said this issue of digital borrowing has been almost vacated because not every woman has a phone. Not everybody has a phone, by the way. So, we are reverting back to manual borrowing and that requires personnel to ensure that they educate the women on availability of this Fund. We have officers at the constituency level who are tasked with that responsibility of ensuring that they educate the members on the availability of that Fund. When we talk about constituencies, that is where they are. We will have an officer who will educate them at that level. Then with time, maybe progressively, that information will reach them. We shall also be making a follow up to ensure that we do not just pick that. We will ensure that we also get the reports from the constituency level on how much publicity has been made to our clients. I thank you very much."
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