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"speaker_name": "Hon. John Mbadi",
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, on actual amounts that these Members earn, I may not have the actual figure. However, I am told the lowest is in the region of about Kshs28,000 per month. It is fairly low that is why there was a recommendation from the Akiwumi Tribunal to push it up to a living pension of at least Kshs100,000 or US$1,000 per month. I think it was put in US dollar terms. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I repeat this; you can only be able to change it if you amend the law. This is because the law as it is now, you cannot change the actual amounts of what these former MPs earn. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "In terms of the Cabinet Secretary pushing the agenda, yes, I pushed the agenda as a legislator who had the powers to legislate. However, I do not have that power now. That power is with MPs to push for legislative amendments. I can only propose to Parliament for an amendment. I think this is a matter that Parliament is well-seized of. The Parliamentary Service Commission is in place and it is concerned with the welfare of both present and former Members. If there is supposed to be any adjustment on pension entitlement for former MPs, the right people to push for it would be the PSC and MPs. Thank you."
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"content": " Senator for Meru County, Hon. Sen. Kathuri Murungi, proceed. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, just note down those questions because I will be calling upon a number of Senators and then you will respond to them at a go."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The last time the Cabinet Secretary was in this House, I raised a question concerning former councilors. You can see that the issue about Pension, gratuity and honorarium is really recurring. So, you tasked three Committees of this House; that is, the Committee on Justice Legal Affairs and Human Rights Committee, Labour and Social Protection and Budget and Finance together with the National Treasury to sit down and come up with a legal framework to facilitate the payment of honorarium and pension to former councilors. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the 60 days that you gave have lapsed. I was looking around and none of the Chairpersons of the three Committees is in the House. Since the Cabinet Secretary is here and he is also party to this issue, can he give a word on how far they have gone with that discussion on the legal framework? He had said that the legal framework is what is lacking for him to release the money to the former councilors. Thank you."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, my question is on policy. There is a Member of Parliament from Bungoma County who served four terms. After serving the first two terms, it was interrupted and he started enjoying his pension. He then came back, served another two terms. Now, when he returned, he was unable to enjoy the pension of four terms. Is it the policy of Government that such a MP should be denied the pension of four terms, so that he is being referred to the first two terms?"
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"content": " The Senate Majority Leader, you may proceed."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, a quick question. I have on my phone messages from the people that sent me to this House. They are asking, when will the Cabinet Secretary stop this practice where, when public servants retire, they have to spend the next about three years chasing their pension file at Bima House? Many of them are retired teachers, doctors and public servants. I have seen from the response of the Cabinet Secretary that they are implementing an integrated block-chain and biometric technology. The only thing that is missing from the Cabinet Secretary’s answer is when. That is very important for the people who voted for me to come to this House to know that when they serve the public and eventually retire, they will receive their The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "pension the month after because that is how the modern world should work. Therefore, that is my humble request to the Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": " Sen. Joe Nyutu, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My question is not very different from what the Senate Majority Leader has asked. It particularly concerns teachers and police officers who are retired. You will be told by the Teachers Service Commission (TSC), once you follow up, that the TSC has made all the necessary documentation and referred the same to the National Treasury. There are delays because there is a delayed disbursement by the National Treasury. I would want the Cabinet Secretary to tell us what he is doing to prevent abuse of Article 223 because that is clearly where the problem with delayed disbursements is happening. Money is set aside for a particular purpose like this for sorting out pensioners under Article 223, then such monies are drawn and taken to other use. What is the Cabinet Secretary doing to see to it that there is no abuse of Article 223?"
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