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"speaker_name": "Navakholo, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. You know he is my leader, and when he speaks, you seek that he allows you to inform him. The work you are asking for is done. It is only in the pipeline to be brought here. In the next few weeks, you will have it with you."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " Very good. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. It is good that I elicited that information to know that I was not congratulating the Committee in vain. I would implore Hon. Wangwe to finalise the report and bring it to the House Business Committee. We shall prioritise it for consideration, so that we can get to know who the COVID billionaires are. People who took advantage of a very unfortunate situation as the COVID-19 Pandemic in 2019/2020, to steal from public coffers. The KEMSA became synonymous not with the supply of drugs and vital things for the well-being of the people of Kenya, but with scandals and COVID billionaires. People who became billionaires overnight. We must get to the bottom of all those COVID billionaires, whether it was those who were supplying masks and fake respirators and tubes that we had at that time. I pray that this Committee will bring that report very soon, as the Chairman has committed. I was, however, saying that it is good to push all our public accounts committees, whether it is those in charge of investments, those reviewing the accounts of our parastatals or the Public Accounts Committee itself that reviews Government accounts, to ensure that they bring all their reports promptly so that we can arrest the cancer of graft in our country on a timely basis. We were just discussing earlier when Hon. Tongoyo tabled his interim statement on the fake abduction, as has been said, of Hon. Koimburi. We were congratulating the police for their swiftness. The House should learn from the police on the swiftness of acting at the right time. When people steal from public coffers, you allow time, people tend to forget. As Kenyans, we have a very short memory, or we get excited by new things and forget the old. That is why the corrupt in this country know that they can get away with anything. All you need is to buy time. Kenyans forget. That is why the COVID billionaires have been living in luxury over the last three or four years. They assume that Kenyans have forgotten. Many of them used their stolen resources in the last elections. Some are now elected governors. Others are Members of Parliament. I do not know whether any of us here was involved. The Chairman will tell us when he tables the report. I said that to encourage Hon. Wangwe and Hon. Wamboka's committees. I know they are diligent. I must congratulate Hon. Wamboka, who, being a first-time Member of Parliament, is serving with zeal and diligence as the Chairman of a Committee. I can see he is following in my footsteps. I was a Vice-Chair of the Public Investments Committee in my first term as a Member of Parliament. I moved on to become the Chairman of a committee in my second term. Therefore, this is to encourage you to lead your committees and ensure that all these accounts are reviewed on a timely basis, and you table reports before the House. It is not enough to just review these accounts. The more important thing is to bring reports to this House that we can adopt and then follow up, through our Committee of The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": "Implementation, to ensure that all the recommendations, like those Hon. Wangwe has put in this Report, even those on imprest, are not in vain. This House must not and must never act in vain. With that, I beg to support this Report."
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"content": "Thank you. Member for Turkana North."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Paul Nabuin",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I want to disclose that I am a member of this Committee. First, I want to thank my Chairman and the Members of Parliament, including the secretariat, who have taken their time to interrogate the clients and come up with a final Report. I will speak to the cross-cutting issues that came across when we were looking at the five corporations. We found that most of these corporations have declining financial performance. We realised this by the kind of Appropriations-in-Aid that we looked at. As a Committee, we agreed with the auditors that the boards needed to sit down and come up with strategies to increase revenues. This would enable the corporations to make payments for their financial commitments as well as take care of their needs. Hon. Deputy Speaker, we also realised that there was delay in appointing members of the boards of directors in most of the corporations. Boards of directors support the management of corporations. In their absence, either there will be a delay in implementation of certain activities or delayed budget approvals and unprocedural payments are made. We recommended a look at the State Corporations Act in order to reduce time of appointment of boards. Those involved in the appointment of members to boards of directors should ensure that the corporations appoint their boards within time, so that it does not affect their management. We also realised that some reports of previous Public Investment Committees were not implemented. We have recommended that the Committee on Implementation should fast-track the implementation of reports of previous PICs in order to correct some of the issues that auditors brought up. A delay in implementing the reports also delays many issues that need to be taken care of. We also noted that most times, many documents were not availed when auditors are auditing the corporations. In the process, auditors were not able to confirm areas of irregularities. Audit is a process that gives State corporations much time to provide evidence of what auditors require. Therefore, we recommended that accounting officers such as director- generals of corporations should provide documents within time. In most of the financial reports we got, the documents delayed during the audit period were provided years later. Therefore, auditors were not able to verify and confirm the inquiries they wanted to pick. Hon. Deputy Speaker, my colleagues have talked of the delay in accounting for imprest. This was also across the board in all the five corporations whose financial statements we looked at. As stated by colleagues, it is incumbent upon staff and employees of these corporations to follow laid-down regulations. When you receive imprest, you should account for it seven days upon return. We have recommended that accounting officers, whether still in those corporations or out of the corporations, be reprimanded for delayed imprest accountability. The last thing I noted is that most of the corporations have many cases in court and these cases have taken so long to conclude. This has delayed a number of decisions that needed to be taken care of by these corporations. We have recommended that accounting officers put together the list of delayed court cases and bring them before our Committee so that we can inform this House and engage the Attorney-General to have these cases fast-tracked. Most of the corporations did not have risk management policies and even internal audit structures. We have also recommended that these structures be put in place to minimise some of the issues that came out of the corporations. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Turkana North, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Paul Nabuin",
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"content": "As I conclude and when this House adopts this Report, I request the Committee on Implementation to move swiftly to implement these reports so that we can minimise the inquiries that arise from the audit and financial statements that appear in audit committees. I support."
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"content": "Thank you. I see there are many of you who have interest in this. Therefore, I request that each of you take five minutes. I give this opportunity to the Member for Central Imenti, Hon. Moses Kirima. He is not in the House. Next is Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi, Member of Tetu."
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"speaker_name": "Tetu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto",
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"content": " Thank you very much for the opportunity to also rise and support, especially the Report from the Chairperson of the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. I was a Member of this Committee before I was surprisingly de-whipped when I refused to support some impeachment Motion that came to this House. That is not the reason I stood. I stand to support because I was part of this process. One of the things we encountered when doing many of these audits was mainly the refusal, delay, or even the manipulation of necessary audit documents by some of these State corporations."
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"speaker_name": "Bumula, DAP-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Wanami Wamboka",
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"content": " On a point of order."
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"content": "There seems to be a point of order here. What is your point of order?"
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