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"content": "What is your point of order?"
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"speaker_name": "Bumula, DAP-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Wanami Wamboka",
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"content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, I just want to inform the Member for Tetu Constituency, who is a good friend of mine, that the reports of this House and recommendations of committees are not in vain. I want to confirm to him that in one of the recommendations of the Committee that I chair, we referred the matters of Moi University to the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC). I also want to confirm to him that the CEO, who is the Vice-Chancellor, was arrested and is being charged in court. Therefore, this House does not act in vain, Hon. Member for Tetu Constituency. Hon. Deputy Speaker, allow me to induct him properly later, now that I am a ranking Member of the House."
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"content": "Thank you. Remember committees are at liberty to recommend prosecution. They can even recommend that the person cannot hold a public office."
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"speaker_name": "Tetu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto",
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"content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, you need to protect me from the continuous points of order."
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"content": "I will now let you proceed uninterrupted."
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"content": " I know that my friend, Hon. (Dr) Oundo, would like to make further input. It is good that Hon. Wamboka is giving me words of comfort. However, we would like to see more. We would want these reports to constitute the basis of serious points of prosecution. Just like what the Leader of the Majority Party said, up to date, some of the “COVID billionaires” are walking scot-free while some of them were covered in some of these audits. There is one specific issue that I would like to raise about the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation. When we did the audit for all these years, nearly 13 years that are listed here, because the audit was that much behind, we saw some interesting dealings between KBC, GOtv Africa and MultiChoice. Recently, when there was vetting of principal secretary nominees, I remember the Chairman raised some of these issues. One of the people we figured out for conflict of interest is now the Principal Secretary in charge of the same Information and Broadcasting division. Hon. Deputy Speaker, it shows that some of these reports may not necessarily see the light of the day. The people that we hope will implement some of these things are the same ones who are mentioned in some of these reports. Some of us tried to raise the issue by saying that even if the man had to become a principal secretary, and we had no issue with him becoming one, he could have been posted to a State Department such as Gender and Affirmative Action, Agriculture or one that is a bit far away from the KBC matters. Therefore, I rise to support and I like the comfort that my Chairman is giving me that I will see prosecutions being done. Some of the prosecutions we should start with are those of the people who stole money from KBC by manipulating its shareholding in Gotv and MultiChoice, and those who plundered the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA), but are still walking scot-free. These are the things we want to see happening because this House has to regain its place as a custodian and as watchman of the people’s resources. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I support the Motion."
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"content": "Thank you. Hon. Member for Mombasa County, Hon. Zamzam Kimba. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Mombasa County, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Zamzam Mohammed",
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"content": " Asante sana, Mhe. Naibu Spika, kwa kuniruhusu kuchangia kwenye Ripoti hii ya Kamati kuhusu ripoti ya Auditor-General kuhusiana na State corporations. Ukiingalia Ripoti hii, ni dhahiri shahiri kuwa pesa nyingi za taifa zinapotea kwa sababu ya kuzembea kwa wale wanaohusika katika hizi State corporations tofauti. Ukiangalia hata mashamba, mfano kwenye KBC, KEMSA na mashirika mengine mengi, mashamba ambayo wanafaa kutumia kwa ujenzi na kuendeleza miradi tofauti ya Serikali hayana vyeti vya umiliki. Nikitoa ushahidi dhahiri ni kuwa hata Mombasa, kuna wakati tuliizuru Idara ya Maji na tukapata kuwa wanashamba wanadai kuwa shule ya msingi ya Nyali imechukua shamba lao lakini wakiulizwa cheti cha umiliki, hawana ilhali wenye shule wanacho. Hivyo, unajiuliza, je, Serikali ilienda kwa watu bila vyeti vya umiliki, au watu walizipataje ilhali Serikali haina? KEMSA pia wako katika hilo kundi. Wanamashamba wanadai ni yao ila hawana vyeti vya umiliki. Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) pia ina mashamba ambayo wanasema ni ya Serikali bali hayana vyeti vya umiliki. Ninaomba kuwa, ikiwa tunaweza kuchukua hivi vyeti vya umiliki vyote na kusihi Wizara ya Fedha kushugulikia ili wapate vyeti vya umiliki vya Serikali katika wizara moja, itasaidia sana Serikali. Hii inasababisha sisi kama ukanda wa Pwani, kuwa na matatizo ya mashamba sana. Kuna watu wameishi huko kwa miaka zaidi ya mia, lakini wanavunjiwa nyumba zao na kuambiwa shamba ni la wizara wakati ambapo wao wenyewe wamekaa pale kwa miaka yote. Ndio maana nampongeza Rais kwa kutuwekea Ksh1.5 billion ya kufidia mashamba ya wale wasiokuwa na vyeti vya umiliki ilhali wamekaa pale kwa miaka mingi, ili wapate vile vyeti. Hii itatoa sintofahamu iliyokuwepo baina ya wananchi na Serikali ama hata na wale wezi wa mashamba. Mtu anaenda pale Ardhi House, anaangalia sehemu fulani haina cheti cha umiliki, anahonga humo ndani na kuchukua hiyo hati miliki na kuenda kugawia watu. Mhe. Naibu Spika, nikiangalia Ripoti hii, pesa nyingi sana zinafujwa na hata mhasibu anakuwa mzito kutoa zile rekodi kwa sababu anajua kuna kitu fulani kimefanyika. Wakenya watamlaumu Rais na viongozi wa juu kila wakati kumbe humu ndani na chini kuna watu ambao wanafanya makatafunwa yao. Kwa mfano, bado National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF) inadaiwa na KNH. Unashangaa iwapo hili shirika lilisongezwa na kuingizwa kwenye Social Health Authority (SHA). Juzi, Rais ametueleza wazi kuwa kwenye miaka 50 ya nyuma, idara kama NSSF imekusanya karibu Ksh300 billion pekee. Alipokuja mamlakani aliweka mikakati mizuri ikawa wakenya wanalipa Ksh600 katika National Social Security Fund (NSSF). Kwa sasa, Kenya imekusanya kiwango mara dufu. Pia alituambia kuwa hizi hazina ambazo tunajiwekea sisi wenyewe zitakuja kutusaidia badala ya kukopa Uchina na nchi zingine pesa na kuanza kuweka vitu vyetu kama bandari. Tutakuwa tunajikopa na kujilipa sisi wenyewe. Hivyo nampongeza Rais kwa juhudi zake. Lakini nawaomba wanaohusika huku chini waache wizi ili wasiharibie taifa hili jina. Mwisho, kwa niaba ya wakenya, namuomba Mhe. Rais Salmia Suluhu msamaha. Watoto wetu wamekosea. Nyinyi ni mjirani wetu hivyo tunaomba msamaha. Tukae tukipendana kwa wema kama taifa. Ahsante, Mhe. Naibu Spika."
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