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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
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"content": "I honestly sympathise with the fact that the Report being presented today is on the 2018/2019 Financial Year. Even if you made a recommendation, how do you enforce it? Whoever was in charge then is either dead, retired, or suffering in the village. All his sugarcane has been leased without his authority and he is of no value to this country. With those few remarks, I support the Motion."
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"content": "Hon. Kihungi. Give him the microphone."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to speak on the Audit Report of the Public Investments Committee. As one Member has put it, the most important thing is timelines. I have noticed that the Office of the Auditor-General is coming out clearly as stamping its authority in the institutions. It is clear that the office is working. Parliament is its backbone because we consider their reports. However, committees take too long before they discuss those reports. Secondly, no action is taken. I remember one report by the Committee which recommended that one of our Members be imprisoned for 70 years. The report demonstrated to the National Assembly how the Office of the Auditor-General can execute the fight against corruption. Hon. Deputy Speaker, we wish to support the Report. We call upon committees to understand that the office of the Auditor-General will be demoralised when they realise that even if they become aggressive and fight corruption, Parliament does not act on their reports. The county will suffer. I call upon the oversight committees to take their positions. Let us be seen working. Reports that are brought here are clean, but the news in newspapers is that there is glaring corruption according to the Auditor-General reports. Parliament is somehow seen as compromised. The one big issue is timeline. A committee could be auditing a 2017 report and The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "therefore, the report has no essence. We should make sure we work on the backlog and make sure we are dealing with day-to-day issue. That is where the impact of Parliament will be felt. Thank you."
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"content": "Member for Moiben Constituency, Hon. Phylis Bartoo."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for giving me the opportunity to voice my concerns as far as audit reports are concerned. I have in mind the issue of land belonging to the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA) and the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation (KBC). The KEMSA does not have have title deeds for 32 parcels of land. Likewise, one parcel of KBC land is still in the name of the colonial government. That is a very serious concern given that we have people in Kenya with an appetite for land. This is a very fertile ground for land grabbers. The issue does not just affect the State corporations I have mentioned. It affects the entire society of Kenya. It also affects our institutions of higher learning and even schools. We still have schools in Kenya which have been in operation for many years, but do not have title deeds. That is why sometimes they cannot develop. It also becomes problematic for them to be allocated finances because they do not have title deeds. On the issue of documentation, it is very embarrassing to have State officers and civil servants in Kenya drawing from the national cake, but sit pretty in their offices and are not able to submit documents for auditing. This is very shameful. It is interesting that they are still serving in those offices. What are they doing? They earn tax payers’ money, but they are not able to perform their duties. Hon. Deputy Speaker, that is very shameful. Such officers should be sent on compulsory leave until they comply. That is why institutions collapse. A case in point is Moi University. This is a big institution which has churned out many graduates and many prominent men and women in Kenya. It is going down the drain. It has to retrench 800 employees who have diligently served it for many years. They were told to pack and leave without payment. Such situations occur because institutions do not do proper accounts. Therefore, the Government is not informed of the real situation and position. When they close, we sit back and ask ourselves what exactly happened. That happens because people in offices refuse to follow due process and due diligence in their various responsibilities. The Report also indicates that most of these institutions have weak governance. Does it mean that we have incompetent people serving in these offices? How do they find themselves there when we have trained, qualified and competent Kenyans? Why can they not step down and allow competent people to run those corporations? Some of the audit reports are out dated. I am worried because this is 2025. What is exactly going on at this point? Things must be going haywire. We have to get serious and task the people we put…"
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"content": "You can give her one minute to finish her sentence."
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"content": " We have to get serious and get the right people to run our institutions. Otherwise, we will be going back and forth forever. That is what brings development down."
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"content": "Member for Githunguri Constituency, Hon. Wamuchomba."
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"speaker_name": "Githunguri, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the Report from the Committee that oversees Kenyatta National Hospital, the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority, the Kenya Veterinary Board, and the National Authority on the Campaign Against Alcohol and Drug Abuse (NACADA). Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is very disappointing that today, May 2025, we are discussing reports of 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021. It is very unfortunate because there is somebody who may get away with an offence that may have been picked in the Report. There is nothing much that can be done to salvage public money. So, the issues that were raised by the Member The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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