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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to ask that we stand down this Order. The last time we had it, it was agreed that we had to harmonise a number of clauses. I was given the task to harmonise between the proposer and Hon. Kaluma who brought many amendments. We have started that process. It is a little lengthy process. We are working on it and are making progress. I would ask that we get more time to complete the process. Therefore, once again, I ask that this Order be stood down. For the last time, I hope that we intend to finish it and bring it up."
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"content": "Suba North, ODM): Hon. Temporary Speaker, we actually engaged with Hon. Kaluma and Hon. (Dr) Nyikal on this Bill yesterday. All I want to say is that if you look at the very first time it was stepped down for harmonisation, it has been a very long time. I think it is almost a year now if my memory serves me right. I have agreed for a last harmonisation process and we were waiting for this then we proceed with the harmonisation. I agree largely with most of the proposed amendments by the Committee. What we need to agree on the harmonisation is much more between Hon. Kaluma, the Committee and I. I would like to request that should we not be able to complete by next week, then we proceed the next time it is here. Maybe not by tomorrow but next week. I will be ready, able and willing to proceed. Finally, I notice Hon. Orero has left, but I made reference to their family. I know their family; they were my neighbours and he was my junior and in the Luo culture, juniors do not inherit so I will be training him about culture. I know he is a Nairobian and I will be training him about culture."
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"content": " Hon. Orero is here, he is back but I will not give him a chance because if he is your junior, then he cannot comment on those kind of matters as regards you especially. Hon. Kaluma, on this issue of harmonisation, one minute."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, harmonisation of the amendments was ordered by Hon. Speaker the previous time. We are making good progress and I think we have even agreed that straight from here if Hon. Speaker allows the stepping down of this Motion, we are proceeding into a meeting to continue with the process. The challenge of course has been this season in which we have all these Budget things going on. We were frustrated in our meeting yesterday but also this is a Bill which you will note has 52 clauses. The amendments proposed, some very substantive, have also over 60 new provisions. It requires that in addition to the novelty of the matter the Bill is dealing with, those of us who are very concerned about it get good time to thrash it. It is a very noble area, so we commit to the House that Hon. Millie of course is in the Leadership, Hon. (Dr) Nyikal is in the Leadership as Chairperson Departmental Committee on Health, and I assist you Hon. Temporary Speaker at times. Our commitment is that if the House grants adjournment in the manner it did for purposes of harmonisation, we return to the House with progress and not that The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "we disagreed. I also crave your indulgence in the manner the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health has indicated that we go for harmonisation and return to the House with something more substantive in terms of progress. I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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