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"content": "Thank you. Hon. Otiende Amollo."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The response, as read, is grossly inadequate. It is because of our system that we cannot expect our colleague to give us sufficient answers. He can only rely on answers that have been given to him. The issue of Ojwang’ demonstrates monumental impunity and disregard for the Constitution and the law. This is to an extent that, as seen together with what happened yesterday, it demonstrates total anarchy and a danger of sliding to a banana republic if we are not already there. First of all, I would suggest that to ask our colleague to bring better answers, is to give him a task beyond him. He will not get better answers. He is relying on the same police who told us that this was an issue of suicide. There is no way they can give us better answers. I would suggest that if ever there was a case where we should consider constituting an ad hoc committee…"
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"content": "Ojwang's death demonstrates what happens every day, except that it does not come to the limelight. I would suggest that, Hon. Speaker, you consider constituting an ad hoc committee to look into what actually happened, and also, what happens to other persons in similar circumstances, so that the police can be brought to order within the Constitution and the law. There are so many gaps in that response. For starters, we have been failed by IPOA. The IPOA cannot, as the person investigating police conduct, attend a press conference where the police are explaining their own conduct. You cannot do that."
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"content": "The IPOA cannot tell us that they have arrested people and that they already prosecuting people for murder, when the central suspect has not written a statement to date. How then do you determine who should be taken to court if you have not interviewed DIG Eliud Lagat up to now? The IPOA has failed us, and we must call them to order. The other failure is in response to what has now happened - the public outcry. I read the Statement of 16th June 2025 by the Deputy Inspector-General (DIG) Eliud Lagat, where he said he voluntarily stepped aside. There is nothing like stepping aside in law. I invite us to look at Sections 17 and 95A of the National Police Service Act. Under Section 17, the President The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "may remove, retire or redeploy a DIG. None of those can be done by the DIG themselves. Under Section 95A, the disciplinary process can only be done by a disciplinary committee of the National Police Service Commission. You cannot discipline yourself by saying you have stepped aside. What does that mean in law? This whole issue is a charade. If you look back at the questions that were asked, before you are arrested, you are supposed to be told why you are being arrested under Article 49 of the Constitution. This was not an arrest. It was abduction. To use the word “arrest” as has been used by the Chairman, is wrong. If it is an arrest, you are supposed to be taken to the nearest police station. Why would you be taken 600 kilometres away? When you are taken to the station, and the OB is not recorded, at what point are you told of the reason for your arrest? You are then put in a situation where you have been set up to be killed. We owe it to this country. Given what happened to Ojwang’ and those who are demonstrating at what happened to Ojwang’, to the extent that the same police are now escorting goons, we are in danger of sliding into a total banana republic. If the Executive cannot bring us back on course, it behoves this House to do so. I suggest we establish an ad hoc committee. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Thank you. Hon. Members, from what I have heard and from what the Chair of the Committee read to us, Hon Otiende Amollo, you can only set up a committee through a Motion. There is no Motion before me. More importantly, I direct that the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration appear before this House on Wednesday Afternoon Sitting."
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"content": "Those with questions and the questions so far raised by Hon. Eve Obara, Hon. Otiende Amollo and Hon. Mukunji, should be availed to him via The Hansard, so that he can be interrogated by the House on matters touching on the death of Albert Ojwang’, taking into account the ongoing court case and the sub judice rule, so that we can have this House lend its strong voice on matters that we disapprove of, on the conduct of officers who are supposed to protect wananchi . So, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Owen Baya, on Thursday, at 3.30 p.m., the Cabinet for Interior and National Administration is to appear before this House. It is so directed."
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