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"content": " Yes, Hon. Omboko"
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"content": " Thank you. You know I am easily identified as Mwalimu Omboko Milemba. I want to support that amendment. One, it is dealing with malaria and it makes it very easy for investment."
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"content": "Two, is sugarcane transporting cost which is higher than any other cost. More fundamentally is the issue of electric motorcycles and bicycles which is the way we want to go. It will reduce usage of our foreign exchange on importation of oil."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. We maybe postponing this idea of zero rating, but we need to think about it deeply. We are zero rating very many products but there is no evidence that by zero rating, the benefit goes to the local person or consumer. For instance, the transportation cost for sugarcane. One, how do you prove that these products are being used by tractors? Two, how does that benefit the local person? We have had cases where something like bread is being zero- rated. I know we fear touching these things, So, it is only for that reason that I will support this. Instead of bakeries employing more bakers, the factories are employing more people to claim tax refunds. We are in a situation where tax expenditure, as we were told by the Committee Chairman, is standing at Ksh550 billion in a year. So, we collect Ksh2.4 trillion, but Ksh550 billion is going into expenditure. Partly towards refunds not because people are paid excess, but they have a leeway in law to claim even if they are not giving any benefit. So, we may allow this for now. However, we will need to review it once we explain to the public the nonsense we are engaging the country in. We do not have money to give KRA to pay. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Member for Kitui Rural."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I support the amendment. On the Ksh550 billion in tax expenditure, 60 per cent is on VAT alone. Manufacturers often pass the VAT cost to consumers while still claiming input VAT refunds. The KRA is already struggling to pay the refunds."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I agree. Until Parliament becomes bold enough to intervene on some of these zero-rated products, we are not going to make good progress. As a Budget and Appropriations Committee, one of our recommendations that are geared towards realising our revenue targets is to scrap most of these zero-rated items from the books. As Hon. Kaluma has pointed out, we cannot even know how the public is benefitting from some of the zero-rated products. We fear because of the perception of the public, but in the end, it is the Kenyan taxpayer who suffer. If we cancel even half of these zero-rated items, we are going to save about Ksh400 billion. We are paying Ksh1.1 trillion interest on debt. Look at how much money we will have for development. Going forward, I request the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning to tabulate all these zero-rated items and cancel them. We will make good progress."
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