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            "content": "while the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning enjoys his drink. If my church found out I went anywhere near those things, I would be excommunicated. The danger is with the Excise Duty stamps. Fixing stamps on bottles of drinking water or alcohol, or on cigarette packets has led to the prevalence of fake stamps. Many stamps are manufactured in China and sold in the backstreets of downtown Nairobi. Therefore, I request The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "content": "the Chairman to restrict the flow metre exemption to a maximum of three years in subsequent legislation. After three years, anyone in the distillery business should have made enough money to install a flow metre. You cannot cheat with a flow metre, but with stamps, cheating will become the order of the day. I will support the clause for now, but I ask the Chairman of the Committee to restrict that provision and make it time-bound for a period of three to five years in subsequent legislation. Any distillery that has been in operation for three to five years should be making money. Lastly, although the matter has already been canvassed, I support the regulation of the production of methanol. The consumption of illicit alcohol has killed many young people in this country. The illicit alcohol that is sold to many people in our villages is not ethanol. Most of it is methanol, which is an industrial alcohol that should never be consumed. Therefore, controlling its production is very commendable. I thank the Committee for that amendment."
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            "content": "Member for Githunguri."
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            "speaker_name": "Githunguri, UDA",
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            "content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I rise to state my reservations on the proposal by the Chairman regarding flow metres. In as much as I support any effort to regulate illicit alcohol manufacturing in this country, including recommendations to introduce flow metres, we need to be careful. Some of us do not know and would want to understand more about these flow metres. How much do they cost? Are they a heavy investment that will be unaffordable to small businesses?"
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            "content": " He said they cost Ksh25 million."
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            "content": "They cost Ksh25 million. In as much as we want to discourage illicit alcohol manufacturing in the country, introducing flow metres might force some people out of their legal businesses, which have been making the right quantity and quality of alcohol. The Ksh25 million is a big investment. How will we ensure that we do not force people out of business? Secondly, I am worried that we are giving the Commissioner of Income Tax a lot of powers. If those powers are not checked, they will be misused."
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