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"speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, what we are listening to is a very major policy issue. When the Finance Bill comes to us, it follows the budget. After the budget has been read and we know we are going to raise this much revenue, the Finance Bill is the mechanism for raising that revenue. One would expect that there was an earlier consideration and that is how we reached this Finance Bill, so that we raise that revenue. If it now comes out that there was no consultation earlier, so that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, and the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee do not agree, then we are not sure of what we are saying. In the future, we shall have a problem with our revenue."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. Member for Othaya."
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"speaker_name": "Othaya, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Michael Wainaina",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The same way the Chairman is saying that there are people who have already started investing The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Othaya, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Michael Wainaina",
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"content": "because of the tax relief, can he in the same way protect the people who have invested here? You are adding levies yet people have borrowed money, invested, and planned to do business. The plan which was there was based on the policy of the country. Then when already someone has started doing business, invested, planned, consulted and bought machines, you add levies without consulting the country. You are killing these people. At the same time, you are protecting the people who are investing today. Protect the same people…"
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"content": "(Hon. Kuria Kimani consulted with Hon. Samuel Atandi)"
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"speaker_name": "Othaya, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Michael Wainaina",
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"content": "The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, protect the people who have already invested before you add the policy. Check those people first."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. The Leader of the Majority Party. This is the last word on this."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I think that matter is more or less settled between the two chairpersons. We should not be worried. This is the beauty of democracy. The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is protecting his tuff, and the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee is protecting the expenditure side. The revenue mobiliser is protecting revenue mobilisation. I know the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee also has a stake in the revenue that is raised, because he will not expend anything without the revenue being raised by Hon. Kimani. However, the two chairmen have one common institution between them, which is the National Treasury, that will balance the expenditure side and revenue side. So, we should not be worried."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " They also serve one country."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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