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"content": "”. Not unless what he is saying is not what is in the Bill. That is why I was raising this matter. If he was talking about ring-fencing the resources, I have no problem, but we are establishing a fund as per this amendment."
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"content": " Hon. Mayaka, proceed."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I hope the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is listening. What he should do for us is to give us a cost-benefit analysis that explains the creation of this fund versus what is being lost without it and ring-fencing this amount, so that we can understand where this is coming from. This could be one of those costs that are incurred for a specific benefit or the other way round. So, we need to understand the cost-benefit analysis."
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"content": " Hon. Omboko."
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"content": " The Chairperson has to explain because he is creating a fund and he is not saying who is going to manage that fund. Therefore, that will become another loophole for the same money that we want to protect for Government use. Just like we dealt with the other clause which he withdrew, it is very important that he clarifies the creation of this fund. Remember, we had gone slow on the creation of funds and such like organisations on the ground of who manages them. It is dangerous for us and the operations of the Government."
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"content": " Member for Homa Bay Town."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, we have a budget of over Ksh4 trillion and that revenue for that budget is mainly collected by the Kenya Revenue Authority. By international practice, the revenue authorities are usually budgeted between 1.5 per cent and 2 per cent of the revenue. Because of our fiscal space, we are giving them far less. The request KRA made to enable them collect revenue more efficiently to fund The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the budget is that we ring-fence a portion of the money. It is just an Appropriations-in-Aid (A- in-A) going into a fund to be managed by them for purposes of their work. If that happens, we will get more revenue in the process. If we just left it as A-in-A, accountability issues arise and it becomes very difficult. I urge that we support this provision."
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