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"speaker_name": "Molo, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kuria Kimani",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Members, for raising your concerns. I want to give clarity to what this is. Section 7 of the Miscellaneous Fees and Levies Act says: “There shall be paid a fee to be known as the import declaration fee on all goods imported into the country for home use”. Section 6 says: “Out of the fee collected under subsection (2), 10 per cent shall be paid into a Fund established and managed in accordance with the Public Finance Management Act (Cap. 412(a)). The money in the Fund under subsection (6) shall be used for the payment of Kenya's contributions to the African Union and any other international organisation to which Kenya has a financial obligation”. So, there already exists a Fund from where 10 per cent of money collected as import declaration fee pays for our foreign obligations, including to the African Union (AU). What we are saying is that from this Fund, 10 per cent will go into reinforcing digitisation of operations within KRA. There is no creation of an additional fund. We are just saying that as the money is used to pay for international obligations, a part of it can be used for digitising KRA services. Remember, we are coming from a point where we have no fiscal space for KRA to fund some of these expenditures."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
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"content": " Thank you. For clarity, KRA currently receives 10 per cent of the Fund. Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": " Hon. Chairman, the amendment is good, but we may be giving KRA resources they do not need. When we were considering the budget, KRA appeared before us, through the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, but they never told us that they needed this excessive amount of money. What the Chairman needs to tell us is the amount of money. Under my leadership, KRA is well funded to collect taxes. We should know how much the 10 per cent is."
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"content": "(Laughter)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
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"content": " I already said it and this should be the last time. Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee and Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, this is a spectacle that has never been seen in Parliament at this stage. You should avoid it in future. Member for Kesses."
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"speaker_name": "Kesses, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Julius Rutto",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I want to liken this particular discussion with a traditional farmer who uses oxen to plough. Most of the time, when a farmer uses oxen to plough, he uses the produce to feed the oxen to give back energy. What we are saying is that KRA is an entity tasked to mobilise and collect resources to finance our budget. Because of the dynamic nature of systems and technology in the world, they are always found on without the ability to adjust and ensure that they on-board technology to enhance their collection and effectiveness. What is the loss in allocating 2 per cent of the money to KRA?"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairperson",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Thank you. Hon. Lesuuda."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Having listened to the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": "National Planning, I am convinced it is not a fund. It is for a specific use. My question is: Will you digitise indefinitely? Does this thing have a time frame? Given the amount involved, we need to know the exact figure. Hon. Kaluma should declare his interest here as he walks around. We need to know how much that 10 per cent constitutes, because when you appear before the Budget and Appropriation Committee, you should explain what the funds are required for and how they will be utilised. Will this Fund operate into eternity? It must have a clear timeline. After digitisation is complete, the collection of funds must cease."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
"speaker": null,
"content": " As the Chairman gets his answer, Hon. Thuku."
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