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"content": " Who wants to speak to this? Yes, Hon. Omboko Milemba."
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"speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
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"content": " Bwana, I am a Member of Parliament for Emuhaya Constituency. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank Hon. Members who sat through the sittings since yesterday. They participated well and the debate was good. Some clauses, for instance, the clause on limiting of the Private Members space did not require a lengthy debate this afternoon. Its debate had been exhausted yesterday. Again, today many Members, including the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committees sat through out to follow the proceedings. The contributions made were from across the aisle, which was very good. That means that the Finance Bill is acceptable to the entire House. There was a lot of consultation and public participation, and the people’s views were put into consideration. Therefore, I want to thank the Members for a job well done. Indeed, like the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning indicated, the Finance Bill should not only be a tax raising measure, but should also direct policy. Our economy needs to be resilient so that we can go for the vertical expansion of the tax space. However, for now, we will deal with the horizontal bit so that we can build resilience for our economy. I support."
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"content": " Any more contributions? Hon. Makali Mulu."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to join Hon. Colleagues in appreciating the good work that was done by the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and the contributions of the Members in today’s Committee of the whole House stage. It has been very enlightening. I appreciate that the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning dropped some amendments for the sake of the country. There are things that were mentioned yesterday during debate that are not in the Bill that can improve our financial management and revenue raising measures. In a more summarised way, I just want to mention three items. The first one is on the revenue leakages. As we appreciate the fact that KRA needs to collect more taxes, it is also important to ensure that whatever is collected from Kenyans is managed prudently for the sake of the country because it is a result of hard work. The second item is that there are many Kenyans who are not paying taxes because our economy is more informal. We must ensure that we bring as many Kenyans as possible to the tax bracket so that we have more people paying taxes. We should also reduce the tax rates so that people have more money in their pockets. That can trigger economic activities in the country that can lead to economic growth that will be good for the country. The third item is that there was a proposal to review our PAYE packs from a certain organisation. I still insist that the Chairman and the Committee take that matter seriously. It is a progressive proposal and if we implement it, it will be good for the country. Thank you, Hon. Members for all the contributions you have made to this Bill."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Members, we still have the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill to deal with. I am going to give all of you a chance to contribute, but please make it brief. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Hon. Samuel Atandi, Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also join my colleagues in appreciating the competence and the leadership of the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, my brother, CPAK Kimani Kuria, who has ably led it since we joined this Parliament. For the first time, we have a Finance Bill that is not controversial. This is largely due to how the Committee executed its responsibilities in listening to the public. I must also extend appreciation to the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning, who went out of his way to educate Kenyans on the contents of the Finance Bill during this cycle. You will recall that during the public participation forums organised by the National Treasury, there were instances where the Cabinet Secretary had to explain to Kenyans who had been misinformed by opponents of the broad-based Government. The narrative being spread was that the Bill would result in massive taxation, including taxes that do not even exist. Kenyans were being led to believe otherwise. I thank both the National Treasury and the Chairman and Members of the Committee for their coordinated efforts. Even when it appeared that we disagreed on the Floor of the House, we were simply testing our levels of understanding of the Bill’s contents. Going forward, we have resolved that both the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and the Budget and Appropriation Committee will work collaboratively to interpret the proposals in the Finance Bill and the Estimates. This cooperation will ensure harmony in the two critical pieces of legislation, all for the benefit of the Kenyan people. We all want Kenya to prosper, and we all desire to see our country grow. Therefore, I laud the Committee and thank the Members of this House who are still present and who have actively participated. As we move into the next session, where we shall begin deliberations on the final two Bills, the Appropriation Bill and the Equalisation Fund Appropriation Bill, I also urge Members to remain seated, so that we may collectively complete debate on these two very important components of our budget process. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Atandi. Indeed, those two Bills shall be debated to conclusion today. Therefore, all those interested in participating in those matters should begin walking back into the chamber. Hon. Owen Baya."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to thank the Committee and all those who have participated in the debate on the Finance Bill 2025. I look forward to a time when this country shall handle one Finance Bill every two or three years, so that we are not compelled to continuously amend laws annually. At times, the numerous changes introduced through frequent amendments become lost in the process, and the law loses clarity. I look forward to a scenario where Hon. Kimani Kuria would sponsor a Finance Bill every three years, so that there is consistency in the application of tax laws and regulatory regimes. This would replace the current cycle, where each financial year brings a new taxation framework. Secondly, and I wish this could be heard even by those leaving the chamber, when I was a first-time Member in this House, some Members mentored and helped me understand the legislative process, particularly during the Third Reading of Bills. Hon. Millie-Mabona would always appear specifically for the Third Reading. I used to wonder why, since most of the sweetness in debate is experienced during the Second Reading. But she would arrive only for the Third Reading, and I came to understand that she had a tremendous influence on the laws that were passed in this House. Hon. Makali Mulu would also always be present. Hon. Pukose, and of course, the Temporary Speaker, Hon. TJ, and others, were among those who helped shape who we are today. However, when I look around now, I hardly see new faces showing interest in legislative The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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