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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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            "content": " Hon. (Dr) Pukose."
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            "speaker_name": "Endebess, UDA",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to second the Appropriation Bill, National Assembly Bill No.23 of 2025. As ably moved by my Chair, we prosecuted most of it during the Budget Estimates and the Committee of Supply. This is the last stage of this Bill, and it will enable the Executive, the Legislature, the Judiciary, and other agencies to access these funds. Just as the Chairman said, we have concluded negotiations with the Senate. Now, through the Division of Revenue Bill, allocations to the Senate have increased. With the new formula read by the Speaker today and forwarded to the Committee, all the counties in the country will be able to access development money following our agreement on the Ksh415 billion allocation. So, counties that previously felt marginalised, like Elgeyo Marakwet, Taita Taveta and others that were not accessing something, will see a substantial increase under the new formula. This is the fourth formula by the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA), which was submitted to the Senate and committed to this House. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we just hope that this money will be used diligently. We request the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) and other agencies to do their work and make sure that there are no leakages. When there are leakages and money end up in other people's pockets, then it means that services cannot be delivered. In the Budget Estimates, we provided Ksh13 billion to Primary Healthcare Fund. This means that health facilities in this country, including Level 2, Level 3, and outpatient Level 4, should be accessible to everyone when they are sick. We hope that with the Information Communication Technology (ICT) system in place, counties will ensure that our people access health care services. One should walk into a hospital, get treated and go home with medication. We are also aware that the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA) has also been capitalised to the tune of Ksh1.5 billion. The recapitalisation of KEMSA should ensure that we have supplies of medicines without any challenge. With those few remarks, I second."
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            "content": "(Question proposed)"
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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            "content": " I will give the first chance to Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu because of his rank in these matters."
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            "speaker_name": "Kitui Central WDM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu",
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            "content": " Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You know we joined this House on the same day, and it is good to appreciate that The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "speaker_name": "Kitui Central WDM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu",
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            "content": "being here three times is not easy. So, Hon. Nyakundi must appreciate that fact. Thank you so much. I will not take more than four minutes because, as my Chairman said, this matter was discussed during the budget debate, the Committee of Supply, when the Cabinet Secretary presented the budget to us, and we are now here for the fourth time. Without much repetition, let me just raise two issues. Our Chairman has said that, through mediation, they have decided to increase the allocation to Ksh415 billion. The allocation approved by this House was Ksh405 billion. At that time, when we approved the allocation of Ksh405 billion, we had already pegged our borrowing at 4.5 per cent of the GDP, which in figures translated to Ksh896 billion. So, I think it will be important for the Chairman to tell Kenyans whether this additional Ksh10 billion going to the counties is part of the borrowing or a reorganisation. That must come out clearly because it will have an impact on the budget deficit. The other issue, which is closely tied to that, is that when we approved the budget as a House, we were at Ksh896 billion in terms of borrowing. I do not know whether that is still additional borrowing, which means our budget deficit as approved by this House through the medium-term debt strategy will also be changing without going through our Committee process. The Public Debt and Privatisation Committee of this House approved 4.5 per cent of our GDP as the deficit for this year. On the figures of Ksh47 billion and Ksh10 billion, my Chairman should tell Kenyans whether we are borrowing more or we are cutting on expenditure on some items so that we fit within our suit. With those many remarks, I support."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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            "content": " Hon. Dido Raso is recognised."
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            "speaker_name": "Saku, UDA",
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            "content": " Finally. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Indeed, this is the culmination of the budgetary process for the year 2025. We must thank both the Budget and Appropriations Committee and Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, for they have done a good job. For the first time, there is not much acrimony or contestation about the budget or the Finance Bill. I want to make a few points. First, this is a budget that fits on one piece of paper. It is like a shopping list. It has aggregated what is at the Executive at the national level, the Judiciary, the Legislature, and also at the county level. The first thing we must ask of each other as Kenyans is serious fiscal management of the economy. Hon. Makali Mulu said that if we must manage our economy well, the budget deficit should not grow more than 4 per cent or it should even be less so that we borrow less from outside or internally. Second is the issue of corruption and misuse of public resources. The budget for this year is Ksh4.3 trillion. Indeed, that is the highest budget ever, and we must look after these resources. Let no one take advantage and think that there is a lot of resources out there that they can misuse and abuse. Third is the issue of monitoring, evaluation and oversight by this House. If we give any institution resources, both at the national and at the county level, those resources must be monitored, checked and certified because ultimately, as a budget-making House, we are the final authority on the use of those resources. In that case, it is our signature that counts at the end of it all and that is why we must make sure that there is value for money for Kenyans. With those remarks, thank you for giving me the opportunity. I also thank my colleagues from those two committees who have done a great job that we can see the finality of the budget."
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            "content": " Hon. Nyakundi."
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            "speaker_name": "Kitutu Chache North, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Japheth Nyakundi",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for also giving me this opportunity. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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