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"content": " Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I also support this amendment which seeks to ensure that all Kenyans are included. We are realising the constitutional principle of inclusivity. More so, we aim to encourage Kenyans to save for investment purposes. This requires alignment. Kenya, at the moment, is heavily leveraged. We are borrowing more from external sources than from within. We need to The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "encourage domestic savings by Kenyans, so that the Government can borrow locally, invest in development and citizens can earn returns and interest from their savings. This amendment is good. We want to promote participation from both the private and public sectors so that collectively, we can build this country."
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"content": "Hon. Oundo, this is your amendment."
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"content": " Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I also support this amendment. In this country, we recognise that there are many private pension schemes. Before this amendment, we risked discriminating against some Kenyans. This amendment as it stands, covers every Kenyan. I support it."
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"content": " Hon. Oundo."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I just want to sincerely thank the Chairman of the Committee. I raised this matter earlier in the House. He did not get the import of what I was saying. However, as we walked out of the chamber, I believe he reflected on it. You know, most men deal with much more important things outside the formal arrangements. There must be room for informal discussions and that is where we tied it up. I even have evidence in handwriting. Thank you, Hon. Chairman. You are now a listening Chairman."
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"content": " Well done."
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"content": "(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)"
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