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            "speaker_name": "Githunguri, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba",
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            "content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I rise to state my reservations on the proposal by the Chairman regarding flow metres. In as much as I support any effort to regulate illicit alcohol manufacturing in this country, including recommendations to introduce flow metres, we need to be careful. Some of us do not know and would want to understand more about these flow metres. How much do they cost? Are they a heavy investment that will be unaffordable to small businesses?"
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " He said they cost Ksh25 million."
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            "content": "They cost Ksh25 million. In as much as we want to discourage illicit alcohol manufacturing in the country, introducing flow metres might force some people out of their legal businesses, which have been making the right quantity and quality of alcohol. The Ksh25 million is a big investment. How will we ensure that we do not force people out of business? Secondly, I am worried that we are giving the Commissioner of Income Tax a lot of powers. If those powers are not checked, they will be misused."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " Member for Seme. This is the last comment on this, so that we can move."
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            "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, as I support these amendments, the issue of regulation has come up. Why is a flow metre necessary? Why would you use methanol if you can use ethanol? Is there a regulatory function that has been neglected forcing us to solve it through taxation? We might only just need a regulator to effect the regulations. We should look into how the alcohol industry is regulated. What are we missing? I support the amendment."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " Hon. Naisula, you have one minute."
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            "speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have a question for the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning."
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            "content": "(Hon. Kuria Kimani consulted loudly)"
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