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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the New Clause 56A be read a Second Time. This is a provision that again we had in the Finance Bill of 2024 that was seeking to ringfence 20 per cent of money collected through Miscellaneous and Levy’s Act to be used for digitalisation of services at the Kenya Revenue Authority. One of the things that you may realise even to the issue that we spoke to earlier, that we are amending the Tax Procedures Act to require some particular details on the certificate of origin, is when goods arrive in our points of entry, there is that form that we fill. The CIF that we fill showing that I have imported goods of this particular description."
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"content": "It takes a manual inspection, comparing what the importer has filled in their documentation and looking at the physical good, to verify if the two details match. At the time, and I am happy this House was having a discussion in the morning about artificial intelligence, at a time when we have such technologies including AI, it is important that some of these particular services be digitalised, so that it is not a manual confirmation of what someone has declared. These are some of the things and revenue linkages that you have seen that are leading to a lot of revenue loss."
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"content": "(Question, that the new clause be read a Second Time, proposed)"
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu raised his hand)"
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"content": " Yes, Hon. Makali Mulu."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. Even as I support this, I am a bit concerned that we are creating an additional fund. These funds have become so many in this country and some have outlived their usefulness. How I wish we could reduce the creation of more funds because the issue of accountability when it comes to these funds becomes very tricky."
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"content": " Chairperson. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to give comfort to my Senior, Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu, that this particular provision is not creating additional funds. He has been one of the Members in this House who has been very vocal on the need to rethink the many funds we have in this country. As we speak, KRA collects taxes on behalf of the Government. This money is banked at the Central Bank of Kenya, but for KRA to expense on the approved expenditures, they have to rely on the Exchequer, just like all the other entities. We have seen situations where even the medical insurance for the staff of the Authority have been cancelled because they have not been able to pay on time. Therefore, we are creating a ring-fence that will enhance their Appropriations-in-Aid (A-in-A), so that they can have some leeway even when there are delays from the Exchequer and they are able to move forward."
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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Wamuchomba, proceed."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, in as much as I support the ring-fencing of some money so that we can be a little more efficient, I am just concerned that this is a creation of a new expenditure. Every fund that we create requires a secretariat or a board to manage the fund. Are we not worried that we are raising revenue, but creating an expenditure?"
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