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"speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " The Chairperson has to explain because he is creating a fund and he is not saying who is going to manage that fund. Therefore, that will become another loophole for the same money that we want to protect for Government use. Just like we dealt with the other clause which he withdrew, it is very important that he clarifies the creation of this fund. Remember, we had gone slow on the creation of funds and such like organisations on the ground of who manages them. It is dangerous for us and the operations of the Government."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Member for Homa Bay Town."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, we have a budget of over Ksh4 trillion and that revenue for that budget is mainly collected by the Kenya Revenue Authority. By international practice, the revenue authorities are usually budgeted between 1.5 per cent and 2 per cent of the revenue. Because of our fiscal space, we are giving them far less. The request KRA made to enable them collect revenue more efficiently to fund The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": "the budget is that we ring-fence a portion of the money. It is just an Appropriations-in-Aid (A- in-A) going into a fund to be managed by them for purposes of their work. If that happens, we will get more revenue in the process. If we just left it as A-in-A, accountability issues arise and it becomes very difficult. I urge that we support this provision."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Chairperson, go ahead."
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"speaker_name": "Molo, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kuria Kimani",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Members, for raising your concerns. I want to give clarity to what this is. Section 7 of the Miscellaneous Fees and Levies Act says: “There shall be paid a fee to be known as the import declaration fee on all goods imported into the country for home use”. Section 6 says: “Out of the fee collected under subsection (2), 10 per cent shall be paid into a Fund established and managed in accordance with the Public Finance Management Act (Cap. 412(a)). The money in the Fund under subsection (6) shall be used for the payment of Kenya's contributions to the African Union and any other international organisation to which Kenya has a financial obligation”. So, there already exists a Fund from where 10 per cent of money collected as import declaration fee pays for our foreign obligations, including to the African Union (AU). What we are saying is that from this Fund, 10 per cent will go into reinforcing digitisation of operations within KRA. There is no creation of an additional fund. We are just saying that as the money is used to pay for international obligations, a part of it can be used for digitising KRA services. Remember, we are coming from a point where we have no fiscal space for KRA to fund some of these expenditures."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. For clarity, KRA currently receives 10 per cent of the Fund. Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": " Hon. Chairman, the amendment is good, but we may be giving KRA resources they do not need. When we were considering the budget, KRA appeared before us, through the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, but they never told us that they needed this excessive amount of money. What the Chairman needs to tell us is the amount of money. Under my leadership, KRA is well funded to collect taxes. We should know how much the 10 per cent is."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " I already said it and this should be the last time. Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee and Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, this is a spectacle that has never been seen in Parliament at this stage. You should avoid it in future. Member for Kesses."
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