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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Mover."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. With your kind permission, I would like to donate one minute to Dr Makali Mulu to make one point. One minute, please."
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"speaker_name": "Kitui Central, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Muluu",
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"content": " Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker and my Chairman. One point which has not clearly come out is the issue that, as a result of the second marginalisation policy, we moved from 14 counties to 34 counties, and we moved to 107 constituencies and 1,024 sub-locations. This has pushed the projects to be so small in terms of size, hence, minimal impact. If we want to help these areas, the next marginalisation policy should factor in the issue of projects with a higher impact. Unless we do that, this will remain a problem. This House must focus on two issues. Firstly, it should ensure that the third marginalisation policy captures the interest of all the Members who have spoken here, so that we have a clear way forward. Secondly, the Equilasation Fund was to last 20 years, and we have already done 15 years with minimal impact. We only have five years to go. I do not know whether, as a House, we would want to extend that time to 40 years. This is something we have to think through. I submit, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, once again, let me donate another one minute to Hon. Jematiah."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jematiah Sergon",
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"content": " Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you, Chairman, for donating your time. The framers of the Constitution took their time and understood the importance of equalisation. We should continue using the same frame of the Constitution that earmarked the 14 counties from the beginning to enable them to fully develop, when allocating. As much as we also agree that there are parts of the country that are continuously marginalised, using their perimeters, if the initial policy is followed well when allocating resources, we will be able to uplift this country to almost the same levels. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Chairman."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Mover, if you proceed like that, I will open debate."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to thank all the Members who have contributed to this Bill and expressed support for the Bill. Hon. Members, I have listened to the issues that have been raised by some Members, including the kind of priority projects that are being implemented by this Fund in the counties. Some Members are suggesting that they should be given an opportunity to propose what kind of projects need to be implemented. For example, in a county where there is a shortage of water, electricity, and even health facilities, some Members are proposing that they be allowed to just say they need water or electricity. We have learned that governors are implementing projects of their own choice. We have taken note of these observations, and as a Committee, we are going to engage the relevant departments to ensure that this Fund serves the purpose for which it was created. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to reply."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Very well, Hon. Members. We shall defer putting of the overall Question to the next Sitting. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": "Next order."
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"content": "(Putting of the Question deferred)"
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