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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Karemba, is anything out of order?"
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"content": " I am not on a point of order."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Do you wish to contribute?"
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"content": " Yes."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): In that case, let me give the first opportunity to Hon. Gideon Ochanda. You may proceed."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The world is moving very fast. In the study of political science, the animals that move slowly are governments. Governments are very slow; they cannot move at the speed at which the world is advancing. The world is progressing rapidly because it is driven by individuals and minds focused on making things easier to do, easier to deliver, easier to understand, and effortlessly ensuring that tasks are accomplished. If one examines the last 20 years, one can see how we have transitioned even in the space of telecommunication. In the past, when one wanted to make an international call, one had to book an appointment at Ex-Telecom here in Nairobi and wait for several weeks before being connected to the United States. This situation is quite recent in our history. We have witnessed such structures rise and fall. Today, one of the greatest challenges that states face is the issue of insecurity related to the advancements in technology. The police, intelligence agencies, and governments are at risk because individuals often stay ahead of them. Citizens are outpacing them. This is why there is a widespread outcry; governments are struggling to adapt and adjust at a pace they cannot manage. This is why, one day, one hears about a person operating a completely different parallel press that the government and mainstream media are unaware of, and the next day it raises critical issues. Thus, we see that governments are slow. In terms of inertia, governments take too long to turn. By the time they do manage to turn, they find that individuals have already moved much further ahead. This is the reality we face with technology today. Therefore, if our governments wish to catch up, it is essential that clear-cut departments are established, and staffed with smart personnel. Some of the people we are trying to chase out there need to be in government. The people running away with computers and doing certain things beyond us should be working for the government. Otherwise, if we leave them unregulated, we cannot classify their actions as illegal if there is no law against them. Thus, when someone commits an act that is deemed wrong, there is no way to prosecute them. This is the situation we currently face in our nation. Individuals possess a greater understanding and capability in terms of intelligence and technology than the government does. The best response for the government is to recruit these talented individuals and integrate them into government operations. Many governments have done that. Failing to act could lead to disastrous consequences as they continue to stay ahead. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Secondly, Hon. Temporary Speaker, we must discuss unemployment. The rise of artificial intelligence (AI) directly relates to labour issues. What is going to happen as AI advances? I would like to provide a small example. I have visited a large high school with eight streams of classes. In comparison to another school in my constituency that employs 98 teachers, this institution manages with only 18 teachers. They achieve this by having one teacher in a small corner of a computer room handle eight classes simultaneously. If we continue down this path, what will happen to the many teachers we are training? This presents a real contradiction. What will become of the thousands of individuals we are preparing for the workforce? This Government has done very well, particularly in terms of recruitment of teachers. We have more than 70,000 teachers currently hired, with thousands still awaiting recruitment. Those in teacher training colleges also number in the thousands. Universities are producing no fewer than 100,000 graduates each year. When I completed my degree, there were only 2,019 graduates across the entire country, and this was not long ago. Now, we are generating over 100,000 graduates annually. Where are they going? Therefore, while we consider the volume of labour we are producing for employment, it is crucial to compare this with the trends in AI. Many individuals have yet to grasp the implications of this, and we could be facing significant challenges. This is why Hon. Kitany raised the issue of awareness. What do we need to prioritise as a government and as a people? Are we prepared to inform our people about these changes instead of allowing them to seek opportunities elsewhere? There is a strong likelihood that they will find themselves without jobs. Why? Because of AI. AI is an inevitable progression, and the world is leaning towards it. Therefore, we risk having a bulk of our workforce stranded, creating another problem. We need to strike a balance. Let us not forget when our people resisted the introduction of tea-picking machines. I wonder how many people recall that period. Eventually, those machines were widely adopted and are functioning effectively. What happened to the workers who were previously employed to handpick tea? They are no longer complaining, but the benefits of automation are to the investors. The cost of labour is one of those production expenses that is incredibly high, particularly in many countries, including ours. Workers often approach their jobs not with the attitude of contributing to a collective benefit, but rather with the singular goal of earning a pay check. Their primary concern is earning at the end of the month, regardless of the nature of their work. As a result, if employers elsewhere recognise they have alternatives to local labour, they are likely to opt for those options. As a nation, we need to tread carefully moving forward. AI is here to stay. Embracing and regulating artificial intelligence (AI) is imperative; if we do not, it will outpace us. Individuals are already experimenting with AI, and some countries are even employing robots to deliver essential services such as blood. Imagine a scenario where places like Lamu and Busia deploy robots without any form of oversight or regulatory framework. It could lead to chaos. I believe this Motion is apt, and the government must take it seriously. Regardless of the practicality of implementing various measures, this serves as a warning that something must be done. Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Please give, Hon. Karemba Muchangi the microphone."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Karemba is also my name, and I feel quite comfortable using it. It is my official name. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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