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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Maanzo."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me the opportunity to seek clarification. I would like to seek clarification from the advocates of the County Assembly. I listened to the preliminary objection and the answers the counsel gave, I know they are very brilliant counsel, I had an opportunity to appear with them in court. Out of the points given, could you point out your rebuttals, so that we can know the points? Otherwise, I just heard a big lecture, but I did not pick out the rebuttal points. Thank you."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Karungo. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I understand that every House has a department of the HANSARD. In most cases, like at the Senate, we have video recordings. Do we have the same for the County Assembly of Isiolo? Have they submitted the HANSARD, audio Hansard plus the video Hansard for that day? That goes to the County Assembly and probably also to the Governor. The next question is to the Governor. On that day that the Governor was invited to appear at 9.00 a.m., did he appear at that particular time? Thank you."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would wish to seek a few clarifications from counsel on both sides. Let me start with counsel for the Governor. I will ask counsel Elisha Ongoya this question. Counsel, your preliminary objection is premised one, that there is no Motion because there were no sittings on 18th and 26th June, 2025. I want you to go straight to address the Senate on the affidavits that have been sworn in support of the fact that there were no sittings. Were there sittings? Were there Assembly proceedings? I ask this because the response from the Assembly is not clear as to whether or not there were sittings. Mr. Nyamodi, perhaps, this is to you to clarify as well. You said that the sittings on 18th and 26th informed the basis for orders obtained from the High Court in Meru before Judge Nyaga and that the doctrine of estoppel should apply to the to the Governor's team that they cannot approbate and reprobate at the same time. Now, please, give us a response. Was there or was there no sitting? Number two---"
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Mungatana."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to seek a clarification. I want to hear from counsel for the County Assembly. There is a question that has arisen about the High Court sitting in Meru that nullified the decision that was taken through a Motion. I want to know if they took time to appeal that decision, to seek a stay in that decision or whether that decision of the High Court is still holding firm. If so, what does it mean then for their arguments? I submit."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Osotsi."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to direct my question to counsel for the Governor and this is based on the affidavit by Counsel Theuri where he has stated that there was no sitting. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I find this to be a very fundamental issue in this case, which will determine the direction that this matter will take. I would want him to weigh that against the provision of Article 159(2) of the Constitution with regard to judicial authority. It states as follows- “(2) In exercising judicial authority, the courts and tribunals shall be guided by the following principles— (a) justice shall be done to all, irrespective of status; (b) justice shall not be delayed; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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