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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Counsel for the Governor, you may proceed. You have 15 minutes to make your rebuttal."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. May I have a sight of my time? I will take seven minutes and my learned colleague, Mr. Theuri, will take eight minutes. For the record, my name is Elisha Ongoya."
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"content": "Allow me to start with the question raised by the Senate Majority Leader on who the Clerk of the County Assembly of Isiolo is. In answer to that question, Mr. Nyamodi The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "answered what happened to the Clerk, instead of giving a simple and straightforward answer, who is the Clerk?"
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"content": "The simple and straightforward answer is to be found in the County Assembly’s own documents, Volume No.5 at page eight. The County Assembly has attached, as part of its evidence, a document signed by the Clerk. That is Salad Boru Guracha. That is the simple and straightforward answer to that question."
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"content": "Distinguished Senators, every time you ask a question and people have to scatter around it for five minutes - a question that requires a name of a person - it is manifest evidence there is a problem with that team."
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"content": "Secondly, to the question raised by Sen. Ojienda directly to me on the question of affidavits and whether the County Assembly, in fact, sat, the following affidavits of the following deponents show that the County Assembly did not sit on 18th June, 2025, when this Motion is said to have been introduced in the House and on 26th June, 2025, when this Motion is purported to have been approved. The first one is the affidavit of Salad Boru Guracha, the Clerk."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Elisha Ongoya",
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"content": "Hon. Senators, you know the role of the Clerk in the business of the House. He is a person likely to know whether the House sat or not in two respects. Firstly, when he is physically present, and secondly, as the custodian of the official records of the House. He says by reference to both records, either by physical presence or by reference to records of the House, where he is the sole custodian, the House did not sit."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Elisha Ongoya",
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"content": "The second one is by Abdinoor Dima Jillo, Member of County Assembly (MCA) for Kinna Ward. By virtue of being an MCA, he is a person who can know when the Assembly has sat or not."
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"content": "The third one is the affidavit of Diba Abdirashid Ali, the Leader of Majority in the County Assembly of Isiolo. That is a Member of the House Business Committee (HBC) who is likely to know, number one, whether this business was ever scheduled for those days and whether the House, in fact, sat and transacted that business. Each of these crucial witnesses bring before you evidence that the Assembly did not sit on 18th June, 2025, when this Motion is said to have been introduced and 26th June, 2025, when this Motion is said to have been approved. Allow me to move the next question by Sen. Mungatana on whether the decision from the High Cout in Meru--- My apologies. There is one more affidavit that I overlooked. My apologies for that. There is an affidavit of Shaban Mzungu, the Superintended of Police. He was the person in charge of security at that important public installation, the County Assembly premises, which also houses the County Governor. It is the County Government premises in Isiolo. He also confirms that there was no business transacted in the House on that day because of the circumstances in which he depones to in his own affidavit. The question raised by Sen. Mungatana on whether there has been an attempt to appeal that decision and whether the decision still holds, this is also another simple and straightforward question because an appeal is a particular act. I expect the senior counsel, Mr. Nyamodi, to respond more directly to this question. I had him to answer the effect of this decision. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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