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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": "Subsequently, counsel for the County Assembly gave responses to the questions and clarifications sought by Senators by stating inter alia that the Governor captured the Clerk and that the County Assembly had evidence in this respect and that the impeachment process ought to proceed. He further said that the primary objections are primarily founded on issues of law and that the County Assembly had witness statements to counter the allegations made by the Governor. Counsel also stated that the County Assembly held settings to impeach the Governor and evidence on the same will be adduced, and that the Supreme Court, in the case of Martin Nyagah Wambora gave guidance in respect to incomplete impeachment proceedings. Likewise, counsel for the Governor responded to the issues raised by Senators by stating inter alia that with respect to the questions relating to who the Clerk of the County Assembly is, the County Assembly's own submissions of Vol ume 5 and page 8 settled the matter; that there were no sittings of the County Assembly and that affidavits of the deponents in the proceedings indicated that there were no sittings of the County Assembly; that no appeal has been lodged on the court orders against the County Assembly and that the Motion before the Senate was the same Motion declared null and void by the High Court. Arising from the preliminary issues canvassed, the following are the issues that require determination by the Senate- (i) Whether the County Assembly of Isiolo held settings on the 18th June, 2025 and 26th June, 2025 to table, debate, pass or vote on a Motion for a proposed removal from office by impeachment of the Governor of Isiolo County; and, (ii) Whether in light of the court orders nullifying the proceedings of the County Assembly of 26th June, 2025, the Senate is able to proceed with the hearing on the proposed removal from office by impeachment of the Governor of Isiolo County. Hon. Senators. It is not in doubt that the trial court in impeachment matters is the Senate. Accordingly, the preliminary objection raised by the counsel for the Governor will be determined by a vote of the Senate. The procedure for proceeding to this vote will by a Motion in the usual manner proceeded by a Notice of Motion. The vote will be taken upon the conclusion of debate. To this end, I have directed the Clerk of the Senate to prepare and circulate a Supplementary Order Paper containing two Notices of Motions and the respective Motions speaking to each of the preliminary issues raised. Hon. Senators, the decision on the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of a county governor and any consequential or incidental decision thereto are matters concerning counties and has been previously ruled in all impeachment processes undertaken by the Senate. These decisions are made by the Senate by vote; by county delegations. Accordingly, the preliminary issues will be upheld only if supported by the votes of at least 24 delegations. It is clear that if the preliminary issue contesting whether the County Assembly of Isiolo held sittings on the 18th June, 2025 and 26th June, 2025 to table, debate, pass and all vote on the Motion for the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of the Governor of Isiolo County is upheld, this impeachment shall terminate forthwith and it The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "will not be necessary to proceed on the Motion or vote on the second preliminary issue, as doing so will be an academic exercise. If, however, the first preliminary issue is negated, the Senate will proceed to consider and determine the Motion on the preliminary issue relating to the court orders and the effect. It is so directed. I thank you. Yes, counsel, proceed"
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Paul Nyamodi",
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I just wish to seek clarification from you. During the proceedings that took place earlier on today, we as counsel for the County Assembly understood you as having directed that the Members of this House when they retire to consider the preliminary objections you have just framed for their consideration; will have the benefit of listening to the audio of the proceedings in question. When my colleagues who I act with for the County Assembly attempted to supply the audio to the office of the Clerk of the Senate, the office of the Clerk was of the view that they did not hear you make the direction in respect of this audio being available for the Members of this House to consider. They asked us to come back to you and ask you to make an express direction to that effect. I am on my feet this evening asking that, that direction be made so that the material before Members is complete pursuant to directions that you had made earlier on. Thank you very much."
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"content": " Counsel, maybe there was a misunderstanding. My directive was to the effect that while the Senators retired to deliberate on this matter, they will also exercise their minds on the two videos that had been played; that was my understanding. That is why I upheld and agreed to the request that was made, so that the Senators can look at those two videos that had been played."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Paul Nyamodi",
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, when Mr. Mawira was on his feet, I believe he asked the question on the direction that suggested that even the audio should be supplied to the office of the Clerk for that purpose."
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"content": " Well, there is certainly no way we can accept further evidence that had not been submitted as part and parcel of your bundle of evidence."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Paul Nyamodi",
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"content": "I am guided, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Next Order. The Senate Majority Leader, you may proceed."
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"content": "NOTICES OF MOTIONS"
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"content": "RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE TO UPHOLD PRELIMINARY ISSUE ON WHETHER THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF ISIOLO HELD SITTINGS ON 18TH AND 26TH JUNE, 2025"
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