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"content": "Ninaunga mkono Hoja hii. Bado tunangoja kama kuna ushahidi wowote. Kama hamna ni masikitiko makubwa kuwa hatuwezi kuendelea na kukata kesi hii."
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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for also giving me this opportunity to add my voice to the debate. Allow me to divert a bit and play the devil's advocate. This is the second time we are dealing with matters preliminary objection. We are living in an age where, artificial intelligence has become the way of doing things. I throw a challenge to each and every Senator sitting in this room. For the second time, we are hearing allegations where the threshold has not been met and meetings did not take place. We have committees such as the Committee of Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations shared by my good friend here. We have several committees that attempt to solve some of these issues, so that they do not even make in the first place their way into this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request each and every one of us, we must make devolution work and empower MCAs to do what they need to do and do it rightfully. In a House where we have gurus of law let us also take it upon ourselves to go to our counties and educate the MCAs on the procedures that they must follow. It is very unfortunate that the MCAs have sat many hours trying to work on something where the process that they are following is not right. As the Senate Majority Leader said before here, we had a Kericho case here where the threshold was not met. In this this House we have lawyers. Why can we not volunteer ourselves to go and educate our colleagues because the success of this country is the success of every one of us? It is important that we who have lived to our age take it upon ourselves to ensure that we leave a country to a younger generation; a country we The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "people reason. Where do not see wanton destruction of property because of misinformation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, let us leverage technology and artificial intelligence so that we do not have this question of whether there was coverage. At this age you only need to scroll your phone and see a sitting that was held in every county anywhere in this country. Mr. Speaker, Sir my prayer and my humble request to us Senators is that we do something for this country."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a very important case before the Senate and we must do justice. To do justice, we must strictly follow the law. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. The person who is accusing is the one who has the burden of proof. We cannot teach people bad habits. We do not want to teach our counties bad habits where they bring half-baked evidence or maybe they hide some or bring that which is not convincing to Senators yet, they expect us to just act and approve whatever they are bringing. The process is just as important as the substance itself. I would have liked to hear this case through, so that we know the problems in Isiolo. I have not been to Isiolo for a very long time and I would have liked to know. We do not want the people of Isiolo to continue suffering. If this case is as serious as the MCAs want us to believe, let them go back and prepare properly and bring it back so that we can and follow all the procedures. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not want to say much more than that. I support that we send this matter back. From the facts presented to us here, personally I am persuaded that there was no meeting to impeach the governor. Therefore, we cannot act on facts, which were created thereafter. They should have been created before and thought about thoroughly."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have no doubt in my mind that there was an attempt by the County Assembly of Isiolo to sit, table and debate an impeachment Motion against the governor. As to whether, Mr. Speaker, the County Assembly of Isiolo indeed sat is a crux of the matter that this Senate has been invited to make a determination on. I have listened to arguments from my many colleagues. The good Senator for Nandi, with tremendous respect being my learned has told this House, that the law is clear. In this matter, the law is not clear."
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"content": "On a point of order."
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"content": "The law is two pronged. Can I be heard in silence?"
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"content": " What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey?"
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No.101 on Contents of Speech. Why is he discussing my competence and ability, which precedes me? Instead, he should withdraw and apologize. He should not behave like a librarian somewhere who tried silence me."
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"content": " Order, Senator. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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