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"content": " Sen. Korir, please, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, the county assembly is a replica of Parliament and there are rules and procedures that are used in the two levels of Parliament. I have had a number of colleagues trying to defend the debate that is on the Floor of the House. It looks weird for this House, and even before the eyes of Kenyans, that we are discussing the procedure, which is well stipulated in the Standing Orders. Today, we are discussing how the Assembly conducted their business. That aside, the biggest question that is running through my mind is what we do with the issue because it seems there is forgery of documents and doctoring of minutes. What example are we setting as a House? What are we debating as a House? What are we telling other assemblies? There is an issue that was raised by Hon. Sifuna. I am not a lawyer, but what are we telling the rest of the Kenyans in terms of the documents that have been doctored that the Senate right now is wasting time deliberating on? What kind of business are we handling as a House? What precedent are we setting as a House? I am one disappointed person today in this House. We are dealing with forged documents. We are trying---"
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"content": " Sen. Joyce, kindly, on the aspect of documents having been forged, you need a document expert examiner."
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"content": "Why then are we discussing whether the Motion at hand is--- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "It is so weird. Why are we discussing the merits of this Motion that is on the Floor of this House? It is because the documents are doctored. That is the issue. If the documents are not doctored, then the Motion would not be here. Why are we discussing whether the Assembly held a sitting or not? Either it was a legal sitting or an illegal sitting. Why are we debating?"
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"content": " Sen. Kisang, please, proceed."
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"content": "I also rise to support this Motion because the County Assembly of Isiolo needs justice and the Governor also requires justice. In the morning, before we broke for lunch, there were two questions you posed to the counsel for the County Assembly; that if you play those videos, is it going to show that there was a sitting or no sitting? You repeated twice, and I picked it, that this is what is going to cook this particular Motion. This is because it exposed that there was no sitting. Basically, we would have proceeded to discuss the entire trial if that particular evidence was not shown. So, it is the counsel who has assisted us to bring this thing to a premature end. It is important that this is a House of precedent. In October last year, a similar impeachment of the Governor for Kericho County was brought here, and we debated. We said that they required 32 MCAs, but those who voted for the Motion were 31. So, we discussed, debated and then passed. Thirty-four Senators voted yes, and then 10 Senators were nays. So, basically, we stopped at that particular place. We want to tell the County Assembly of Isiolo, please, either you go back with your Governor, agree and work together or disagree and bring a Motion that has been put through the proper procedures. We are here; the Senate is going nowhere. We are still here for the next two years. So, if you do not agree to work, please, we are ready. It is our job to impeach or not impeach. Bring him back again; we are ready."
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"content": " Sen. Miraj, please, proceed."
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