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            "content": "(Resumption of Debate interrupted on 4.6.2025 – Afternoon Sitting)"
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            "content": "Hon. Members, the last Member to speak to this Motion was Hon. Naomi Waqo, who had exhausted her time. Hon. Robert Mbui, I hope you have logged in to speak to this Motion. Go ahead."
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            "speaker_name": "Kathiani, WDM",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to also contribute to the Budget Estimates of the 2025/2026 Financial Year. I want to briefly comment on this year’s Budget, noting that it has gone up to Ksh4.2399 trillion, which is quite higher than the previous year, and it keeps escalating every year."
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            "content": "I took time to go through the Report of the Committee and I noticed that there is some sense of pride in the fact that the Budget is bigger and that there is an increase in revenues collected. Revenues have gone up because of an increase in income tax, Value Added Tax (VAT), Excise Duty collections, and the introduction of new taxes like the Housing Levy."
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            "content": "[The Speaker (Hon. Moses Wetang’ula) left the Chair]"
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            "content": "[The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) took the Chair]"
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            "content": "We must be very careful about the wording because many people are still pained by the taxation levels in the country. Section 31 states that this increased revenue reflects optimism in the ongoing tax policy reforms and enhanced revenue administration measures. That is not the truth because many people out there have been complaining that they have much less disposable income as a result of increased taxation. We must be careful about how we word these issues so that people do not remember the pain that they are feeling. There is also an increase in Appropriations-in-Aid, which is not a positive thing because it means that the cost of Government services will go up. Therefore, some of our people may not be able to afford basic services. We should not celebrate an increase in revenue and collections by Government agencies and forget that, that money is coming out of the pockets of Kenyans who were promised that they would have much more money."
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            "speaker_title": "Hon. Robert Mbui",
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            "content": "Despite all that, I also noticed that we still have a budget deficit to the tune of Ksh876.1 billion, which will be plugged by borrowing. About two or three years ago, our political leaders were very categorical that we would not borrow in future. However, we have had to borrow for every single budget that has been brought to this House, and we are still borrowing. I am not saying that borrowing is bad, but there is an amount of borrowing that goes beyond what we can afford to pay. Even the complaints by the Committee about the amount of debt we already have fly in the face of what we are doing. We are borrowing Ksh284.2 billion externally and Ksh591.9 billion from the domestic market. What does that mean? We are crowding out local investors. The minute the Government borrows locally, no money is available for businesses to borrow so that they can finance their activities because the Government is an easier entity to lend to. Borrowing too much money locally crowds out the private sector. That means that in the long run, businesses cannot thrive in this country because they have no access to loan capital."
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            "speaker_title": "Hon. Robert Mbui",
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            "content": "I have gone through the submissions by departmental committees and some of them are quite horrific. I know that some changes have been proposed and made after discussions, but I will talk about just two or three committees. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informationpurposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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