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"content": "First, is the Departmental Committee on Education which noticed that there were no funds for national examinations. This has happened in the past and we sorted out that problem through supplementary budgets. Why are we not taking our children’s education seriously so that we provide enough funds for all the activities that are required for education to take place properly? If you want to destroy a nation, just play around with its education system. That is exactly what is going on because, if we do not provide enough money for examinations from the National Treasury, we would not be thinking ahead. That was one of the things that the Departmental Committee on Education raised and yet, the Basic Education Act, which we amended in 2018, stipulates that examinations under basic education will be free."
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"content": "The Committee also talked about substantial deficits in the State Department for Higher Education and Research that prohibit the funding of the University Funding Model. If we do not provide enough money for that funding model, how will we revive our universities and help our children? The Committee says that those deficits will negatively impact the students' welfare and increase the financial strain on students and their parents. Those are some of the problems that the Departmental Committee on Education raised."
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"content": "There is a proposed allocation of Ksh4.8 billion to employ 20,000 intern teachers. I see two problems with that. First, some interns were already recruited and there has been no provision to employ them on permanent and pensionable terms. We do not know what will happen to them. The 20,000 interns who are being recruited with the Ksh4.8 billion will earn about Ksh20,000 per month, which is very paltry. Even Members pay their chefs and cooks a lot more than that. Those interns are graduates and they are supposed to mentor the future generations. How do we expect to get quality education? They say that when you pay peanuts, expect monkeys. How can we get quality education if we cannot properly pay our teachers? You keep somebody as an intern for a whole year and pay them Ksh20,000 per month and yet, there is no assurance that they will get jobs at the end of the year. Those are some of the things that we need to address."
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"content": "I was invited by the Departmental Committee on Education this morning to discuss the matter of capitation. Even the Cabinet Secretary confirmed that the capitation for basic education is not enough. It is very paltry. The amount given to primary schools is Ksh1,420 per child. In a school of about 100 or 200 children, that amount of money cannot even pay a watchman let alone cater for other things like tuition, books, sports, drama and music. They cannot afford to do all those things. We should allocate enough money to the education sector if we want to develop education in our country."
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"content": "I also looked at the issues raised by the Departmental Committee on Health because health is very important. I noted that even though health is a devolved function, the national Government still encroaches on it. It is very shocking. I raised an issue that was introduced by the previous Government from about 2016/2017 on the Medical Equipment Scheme (MES). That project was a mess and it failed. It was implemented without the involvement of the county governments, which received equipment that they had not requested for. Some of that equipment is still being paid for, hence the debt of Ksh6.5 billion. Some of that equipment is not in use because some hospitals do not even have medical practitioners who can use it. We have now moved on from that project and we are introducing a new one called the National Equipment Service Programme (NESP). I also noticed the construction of health centres in the Second Schedule of this Report. Jobs that are supposed to be undertaken by county governments are being done by the national Government. When will the national Government allow counties to do their job and do what is expected of them? No wonder people keep fighting the NG-CDF. I heard people even say that maybe we need to give NG-CDF to the governors. It looks like the Fourth Schedule of the Constitution is not being respected. Let us ensure that those responsibilities The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informationpurposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "that are devolved are taken to the counties, and they can carry out those activities. Those that are for the national Government are the ones that we deal with. We are dealing with a budget for the national Government. The ones for counties, once we do the division of revenue, it is now up to members of county assembly (MCAs) to decide how they will spend their money, and not for us to decide."
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"content": "(Hon. Robert Mbui spoke off the record)"
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"content": "I can give you a minute to finish your sentence."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. You are very gracious. I want to finish by saying that I looked at the Second Schedule, and some of the things I saw are quite shocking. It is about the sharing of resources. Some of us come from an area where we have scarcity of water. You look at the State Department for Irrigation, and notice there are only one or two small projects given to the region I come from, whereas other areas are getting a lot more money. When it comes to the fair distribution of resources, we must bite the bullet and agree that, as we go into the future doing our budgets, we must look at what goes to every constituency. There must also be a schedule given to us to know how much each of us is expecting to go to their people, so that we can defend and make sure that it serves our people. With those many remarks, Hon. Deputy Speaker, I thank you."
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"content": "Hon. Adan Keynan, Member for Eldas."
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