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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Millie Odhiambo- Mabona."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to thank you for giving me this opportunity. I also want to thank Hon. Ali Hassan Joho, the Cabinet Secretary for Mining, Blue Economy, and Maritime Affairs, for bringing this Agreement before this House. This is an Agreement under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea on the Conservation and Sustainable Use of Marine Biological Diversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction (BBNJ)."
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"content": "I am a Member of the Parliamentarians for Global Action (PGA) where I have served in the Executive Council. Currently, I am a Member of the Council and also the current Chairperson of the Kenyan Chapter. We have worked very strongly around this Convention and on the issues of conservation of the oceans and the high seas in general. Therefore, the bringing of this Convention to be ratified by the House is very welcome."
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"content": "The Agreement addresses four main issues. It addresses the marine genetic resources, including the fair and equitable sharing of benefits in the areas that Hon. Kaluma calls rescommunis . Because of the limited resources, there has always been a perception that the resources in the waters are limitless or infinite. Time has shown that they actually can be misused and can be exhausted. Therefore, it is very important that they not only be conserved, but also there is equitable sharing. There has been an imbalance in sharing with developed The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "countries having more advantage than the developing countries. We know that the high seas still have a lot of resources. It also talks about measures such as area-based management tools including marine protected areas for ensuring that we conserve and expand what we already have. It also talks about environmental impact assessments and capacity building and the transfer of marine technology that the Mover mentioned when he was talking about the Agreement. It also talks about cross-cutting issues such as establishing a funding mechanism and setting up institutional arrangement including the Conference of Parties and various subsidiary bodies, a clearinghouse, and a secretariat. Indeed, this is a very good Convention and I support it, but I am concerned about one thing. If we look at this Convention, and a lot of the things that are in it, the focus is very strongly on the high seas and the oceans. Sometimes we forget our internal waters. The Mover or the seconder commented that it is important that we domesticate by providing laws, once we ratify, that will speak to the same issues as what is contained here. I encourage the Committee that when they will be looking at those laws, nothing stops them from expanding into our internal waters specifically Lake Victoria."
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"content": "Yesterday, as a Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, we had an engagement with an agency that works with our international boundaries. They talked about boundary demarcations. A lot of the conflicts that happen, whether in internal waters or the high seas, are generally about resources. Two of our islands, Remba and Ringiti, were mentioned because they are actually very critical in terms of demarcating our boundaries. Those are some of the islands where we always have a lot of conflicts with Tanzania and Uganda on fisheries. It is not a conflict because of political issues, but it is a conflict on fishing and resources."
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"content": "We should replicate in our internal waters a convention that is similar to this one. We can even propose amendments to the Fisheries Act to bring something of this sort. The only reason why the Act is limiting is because it talks only to Kenya. If we provide a treaty, it will actually deal with our neighbours as well and so, I encourage the Committee to look at that."
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"content": "As I complete, Hon. Kaluma and the speaker before you were really boasting how they have done international law and dealt with ISIS. I can also boast that Hon. Caroli and I were students of environmental law at our Master's level. We studied environmental law at our Master's level, but do I say. I am surprised that Hon. Caroli is not keen on speaking, but we are students of environmental law."
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