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"content": " The Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee now purports to have a girlfriend from Homa Bay Town. Hon. Kaluma can be proud as the Member for Homa Bay Town. We are serious people. That aside, it is true, as Hon. Ichung’wah said, that we are dealing with the high seas but sometimes, we forget inland waters, the same waters that have produced great men and women like myself. When you are growing up, you are told that if you eat fish, you become brilliant. I encourage the relevant Committee to consider bilateral agreements with Uganda and Tanzania. The agents we met yesterday agreed that they are willing to work with us. Their cooperation is limited to boundaries. We must look at the issue of shared resources. We need to have a similar agreement for inland waters. Our fishermen should not be taken to Uganda and forced to eat raw fish, with all our intelligence, and made to pay fines because of a fight over resources in Lake Victoria. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Learned friends have talked about the anatomy and physiology of the sea and its boundaries. I just want to say that in a global village, some households are bigger than others. This Treaty is trying to bring order to the global village. You cannot conduct business if there is no legal framework that protects the small ones and guides the greatest. The Treaty also addresses capacity building, technology transfer and knowledge sharing. We will benefit from this Treaty. Together, we can address the challenges of the sea. Without regulation, those with advanced technologies and big machines will scoop everything from our waters. If uncontrolled, they will take away all our marine resources and we will not be able to do anything. Environmental sensitivity has been well spoken about. We have a share on this. This Treaty will bring everybody to order so that we can protect our environment. Who wants to be exploited or caught in conflict with big powers? One vital aspect of this Treaty is that it allows us to tap into funds that can help us as a small nation. I support the Treaty in full. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support ratification of this Agreement. As the Mover said, this Agreement was adopted in June 2023 in New York. So far, almost 123 countries have signed onto it and about 26 have ratified it. Therefore, we should not delay. As was noted by the Committee, Kenya stands to benefit a lot. With the signing and ratification of this Treaty, we will be bound to pay certain fees towards the running of the secretariat. But we stand to benefit as a country that borders the seas and as a developing country. The Agreement has a compendium of issues, including environmental impact assessments, marine genetic resources and fair and equitable sharing of benefits. As the Mover and the Chairman of the Committee noted, this Agreement covers the area beyond 200 nautical miles from the coastline. This is an area that would naturally be construed as no-man’s land. If there is no treaty to govern such an area, it is bound to be abused by many people. This Treaty establishes a framework to ensure equitable sharing of benefits of marine resources including fishing and minerals. Upon ratification, it will be critical that we align all our laws, regulations and administrative procedures to match the obligations of this Agreement. That is a challenge for the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation and the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. That includes legislation on environmental protection, ocean governance and biodiversity in the sea. As we said, it is also possible for anyone to argue The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "that beyond the 200 nautical miles, people can come from anywhere and dump things that will pollute the sea and the environment since it is no man’s land. Therefore, we must align our laws accordingly to ensure that they cover those areas and seek concurrence with our neighbours who we share the sea and other boundaries. With those few remarks, I beg to support. A lot has been said about this Bill. I do not want to say the obvious. I am sure somebody else will say it. I can tell the Member for Alego Usonga is uneasy on his seat. He is very eager to move the Budget Estimates Report."
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"content": " Thank you."
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"content": " Members, let us allow Hon. Raso to have one minute then we put the Question."
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