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"content": " What did you say about the village elders you have been talking about? Is there a provision for them?"
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"speaker_name": "Narok West, UDA",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you for your indulgence. We are all aware that a Bill addressing the issue of village elders is already before this House. It was sponsored by the late Hon. Malulu, but I took it over. We want to legislate to recognise village elders in law, so that we can budget for them. It is a work in progress. I promise the country and this House that, sooner or later, we will have the Bill. We almost have a policy in place from the Ministry. The regulations are undergoing validation. We have a bit of budget for that. However, we can only realise this once the Bill is in place. That is what I have to say, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you so much. I support"
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"content": " I see Hon. Murugara, the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health, and the Leadership. I wanted to make an exception to allow Hon. Dido Raso to contribute for the reasons you know—people of his faith are currently fasting, and he wishes to leave. He is fasting."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for indulging me. I would like to ask my colleagues to bear with me. Indeed, I am fasting, and I wanted to contribute and leave. At the outset, I would like to thank and congratulate the Committee, headed by the Hon. Atandi. I am reviewing the Budget 2025/2026 document, and there are a few areas that I wish to address following comments by my Chairman, Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo. Firstly, it is about the Government Printer, where they have given them an additional allocation of Ksh124 million. The Government Printer is at the heart of printing all Government documents, whether they are pamphlets, gazette notices, doctrinal, or policy documents. The question I keep asking myself is, in the absence of an efficient, effective and time-bound Government Printer, where would classified and important government documents be printed? Hon. Atandi, going forward, it is important we put our resources where our mouth is. That places like the Government Printer should be well-funded so that instead of the Exchequer opposing the funding of the Government Printer, the Government Printer ploughs resources back into the Exchequer. The State Department for Performance and Delivery Management is a key department in the Government. It oversights, reports, monitors and ensures that there is no wastage in government, and that government projects are delivered on time. For the first time, I can see they have been remembered in this Budget. Going forward, if we truly want to combat vices The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Saku, UDA",
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"content": "like corruption or white elephant projects, then we must examine how to hold the State Department for Performance and Delivery accountable. Regarding policing services, I can see that Ksh1.645 billion and Ksh156 million, respectively, have been set aside for the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) and the Administration Police Service (APS). If we really want an effective DCI to prevent crime and arrest those breaking the law, including killing and doing all sorts of anti-social evil, then the DCI must be well equipped. The DCI forensic lab has been useful and available to the Kenyan public. The Budget and Appropriations Committee will, in its wisdom, find the need to allocate resources to DCI. Second is this issue of the APS, the frontline troops. The Service has the Rapid Deployment Unit (RDU), the Border Policing Unit (BPU), and the Response Operating Group (ROG). These frontline groups keep Kenyans safe. That is why we can sit in this Chamber and discuss what is important to Kenyans. If we allocate money for their mobility, firepower, and force protection, then they will ensure our safety. The Chairman of the Committee talked about new administrative units. If Kenya must be governed, then the footprints of governance must be visible everywhere and identifiable. For a very long time, we have only attended to a few areas. In some cases, it is the elite, along with the Executive, who decide where governance units should be located. I must thank this administration because today, we have over 400 new sub-counties, divisions, locations, and sub-locations. Our Committee has identified that we need close to Ksh2.5 billion to operationalise the gazetted administrative units. This particular Budget provides a budget line of only Ksh100 million. It is, indeed, a drop in the ocean. Seamless administration is for our benefit as leaders. If there are incidents, there should be people to take control on our behalf. I do not know where the Budget and Appropriations Committee will find resources. In your deep pockets, please see if there is anything you can do. Livestock contributes 9 per cent to our GDP. Both ASAL and non-ASAL areas depend on livestock for their day-to-day livelihoods. This Budget lacks funding for the National Livestock Development and Promotion Services (NLDPS). It is through NLDPS that we do the development, promotion and marketing of livestock products. We must thank the President for gazetting the Livestock Board a few months ago. Although, in this Budget, nothing has been allocated to that Board. I implore the Budget and Appropriations Committee to look into it and consider what is useful for many out there. We must consider where to plough in more resources or where we can rob Peter to pay Paul. There is the issue of Appropriation-in-Aid (AiA) by the National Treasury and Economic Planning. There are organisations that bring money to the Exchequer, such as the Public Benefits Organisation, formerly known as the Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs), and private security companies. If funded, these organisations can plough money back into the national coffers. It is important for us to identify such organisations and put money where there are returns. However, it is important to note that AiA can be abused. In our Committee, we have looked at certain areas and noted the potential for abuse. Finally, there is the issue of equity. The Budget is about equity. We must consider parts of Kenya that have not been touched because we have a bird's-eye view of the Budget. We must be proficient in equity. With those remarks, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute."
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"content": " Hon. Murugara will be followed by Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal."
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"speaker_name": "Tharaka, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. George Murugara",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by thanking Hon. Atandi and his Committee for the work well done. I know they went deep into the night trying to cobble these figures so that we can have this The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "debate and start the process of appropriating money for the country. Thank you very much, Hon. Atandi and your Committee. I am happy to hear from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security regarding area managers whom we always speak for. I know there was public participation recently on the Government policy concerning them. Therefore, we need to move with speed and enact that Bill into law so that we have a legal framework on which area managers can base their requests for remuneration. It is nice to hear that we are also planning for the new administrative units, the sub-counties. Interestingly, when I was young and in primary school, we had only 42 districts. They have now increased to over 410 sub-counties in the Republic of Kenya. This is commendable because it brings services closer to the people and must be encouraged, including the courts, as was alluded to. We must now move towards having a courthouse in every constituency. So that people do not have to walk long distances to seek legal or justice services. Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to comment on the justice sector in the country. This falls under the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, which oversees several agencies. Thank you, Hon. Atandi, for allocating an additional Ksh1 billion to the Judiciary. This is important because, as the Third Arm of Government, the Judiciary does significant work for this country. Without it, we cannot call ourselves a State. The Judiciary has been allocated Ksh1 billion for various purposes, and the judges, especially the Chief Justice, need to hear this."
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"content": " Hon. Members, pursuant to Standing Order 237, I am alerting the House that we have just entered the Second Allotted Day for the purpose of debating this Motion. Thank you. Proceed."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is the Ksh100 billion supposed to do? This is very important. Number one, we have to recruit additional judges. Pursuant to this, an advertisement has been issued to recruit 20 High Court judges and 15 Court of Appeal judges. Thank you, Hon. Atandi. Number two, we must confirm the over 1,000 youths employed under the Ajira Digital Programme across the country in all the courts. These innocent children have worked under contract for over two years. I am 100 per cent sure that in accordance with our law and judicial pronouncements, you cannot have a casual or temporary employee for that period. The Judiciary needs to look into this matter quickly and confirm these youngsters into permanent and pensionable terms so that they can undertake their work of transcribing Court proceedings, amongst other duties. Number three is stalled courthouses. I would like to remind the Judiciary about the stalled High Court in Homa Bay, as well as other High Courts in the country, and the Principal Magistrate Court in Marimanti. I am happy that money is now available. They should look at all stalled court projects like the courthouse in Homa Bay. They should complete them and post judges so that judicial services are brought closer to the people. This should also apply to the courthouse in Marimanti. Additionally, the construction of courthouses in the constituencies should be expedited. I know the Judiciary is asking Members of Parliament to partner with them so that, using the NG-CDF, they can put up courthouses. Then, they will post staff. If you have any money left in NG-CDF, this is encouraged. I am using it to put up courthouses in two places in Tharaka. You can also try to put up a courthouse not only in the constituency but in every sub- county. This is important, and that is why we are emphasising NG-CDF. This is because it does almost everything in this country, especially when it comes to National Government projects. We have had no regard for what is happening in the counties. I am happy Kenyans are now waking up to ask and demand, 'What exactly are the counties doing for the country? What The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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