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"content": " Let me handle this, Dr. Khalwale. If you have withdrawn the allegation that athletes slept in toilets and bathrooms because it is not true, then you must not only withdraw but also do what follows a withdrawal, that is, an apology."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, what I am withdrawing is the document that I have tabled but I am not withdrawing the statement that the players, when in Maputo, slept on the Floor, in the bathrooms, in the kitchen and in the games village. I am not withdrawing that one."
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"content": " That is what you are substantiating. So, can you substantiate that because the documents that you have tabled are not substantiation? Can you substantiate that before I can permit you to proceed further?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, having withdrawn this, so that we make progress on this Question, allow me to apologize for presenting a document that is not signed, then allow me to ask the following question: Could the Minister table before the House the actual receipts in the hotels where these players were accommodated both here in Kenya and in Maputo? Secondly, given that players played in Post Bank uniforms, could you also table the receipts for the equipment and uniforms because the players never received them?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, as I said, I was a member of this delegation and I have provided a list of all the people who were officially in Maputo. We have said that all those people were accommodated. Some were accommodated in athletes’ village or accredited hotels. As it is the procedure, when you go for international events of that nature, we normally pay and that is why I put here accommodation for the games in the village in Maputo for athletes and team officials on item number two which was estimated to cost Kshs27,613,000 and we paid Kshs18 million. If the hon. Member needs the receipts and the vouchers, I am sure under the Government Financial Regulations, given that he is the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) that opportunity can be availed for my technical team to do what is necessary as provided under the financial procedures in our Chapter Two of our procedures under his Committee. We are also supposed to have provided---"
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"content": " Minister, let me just advice you. The Public Accounts Committee is a Committee of this House and you are now before the House. Just table what you have, to answer his Question."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, as I said, the receipts and details can be availed to the Member of Parliament so that they can be scrutinized under the relevant Committee. That is what I was begging so that my accounting officers can bring them. We have already paid for some of those expenses. So, it is just an issue of the Chair ruling that my Accounting Officer sees the relevant committee to provide further evidence."
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Clearly, my question has not been answered. My question is: Could he table those documents? Since he has not tabled---"
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"content": " Minister, indeed, you have not. An undertaking to table documents before the PAC is not answering a Question before the House. You can table the documentation that the hon. Member needs. If it can go to the PAC, then it can come to this House. So, please, table the documentation that you have so that we can go to the next Order or business."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, according to this Question, I was to table the accounts and which I have already done. If you need supporting evidence, the Government Financial Regulations give clear guidelines on how this can be obtained. I will be asking for your guidance on this issue. I do not know whether I was supposed to carry all the vouchers and bring them here to the House. I thought that it can be directed so that the Accounting Officer can provide them."
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