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"content": " Yes, it is alright."
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank my colleague for allowing me to inform him. In fact, the issue of hon. Bashir is plain and simple; all he needs to do is keep out of our country and he will not be arrested!"
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, according to me, that information is actually obvious. My colleague Mr. Musila, it is true that hon. Bashir needs to stay out of our country but what we are dealing with is the fact that we have a Head of State and somebody has gone to court and sought an interpretation of whether---"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for the Assistant Minister to mislead this House that hon. Bashir, I mean Mr. Bashir - whether he is honourable or not, I do not know - should keep away from our country yet the same Government has sent a Minister to go and assure him and even invite him to come to our country to prove that he cannot be arrested? Is that contradiction deliberate or you are trying to mislead the House?"
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the comment that Mr. Musila made as far as I am concerned, I believe was his personal opinion. The Kenya Government’s position is that, Al-Bashir is an elected President of an African country, legitimately, who is a Head of State and who enjoys certain immunities and privileges. Even when he has been indicted at the ICC, he has not been convicted and, therefore, we must look at his conviction at the ICC as a matter which has not been resolved. Secondly, I would like to state this; the ICC statute makes an obvious recommendation that we need to arrest Al-Bashir if he comes to this country, but it is the ICC which has the responsibility of arresting him and taking him to The Hague, if they feel that they have that responsibility."
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"content": " Assistant Minister, even as you seek to explain the statute of the International Criminal Justice, you must not mislead the House. There is an obligation under that Statute for States to comply with the orders issued by that court. Indeed, that is why the President of the Republic of South Africa and the President of the Republic of Uganda have indicated that they will comply with such requests. What the hon. Members are asking of you is; does your Government intend to comply with the order of the High Court of Kenya? That is what they are asking you."
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the South African and Ugandan positions as far as the Kenya Government is concerned, are positions which these countries have taken disregarding the position that the African Union and Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) have taken. Secondly, I want to make it very clear; what we are saying is not that Al-Bashir cannot be arrested if he comes to Kenya. We are saying that he is not here. So as far as we are concerned, there was even no need for us to have the ruling coming from the court. He is not here!"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the Assistant Minister in order to mislead the House when we know two things very well; one, the hon. Bashir was in this country and he was shielded. We also know that his Minister is on record as having said that they are going to the Court of Appeal. Is he in order to mislead the House?"
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"content": " Assistant Minister, I think you should take this a bit more seriously. In your own Statement, you have said that as you speak before this House, the Minister for Foreign Affairs is in Khartoum in order to do something in relation to this warrant of arrest. So, please, do not say that he is not here and that is why you are not complying. You have in your own Statement indicated that the President of this Republic has dispatched his own Minister for Foreign Affairs to the Republic of Northern Sudan in connection with this same matter in respect of which you are issuing a Ministerial Statement."
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I take your wise word seriously. However, I will tell you that we have appealed to the matter. It has not conclusively been decided by the court as to whether that decision is legitimate or not."
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