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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for the Assistant Minister to be telling us to reframe a Question when the Question deals with people with special needs and which cuts across ministries? Is it not the business of the Assistant Minister to consult his colleague so that they can bring a comprehensive answer rather than tell us to reconstruct our Questions? This Question is properly asked by the said Member."
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"content": " Assistant Minister, listen to all these points of order and then you can respond to all of them."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, indeed the Assistant Minister is quite justified in so requesting the House but has he really exhausted the options? The option he has is to answer the part of the Question which he feels he is competent to deal with, and then tell us whoever he thinks should answer the other part. Alternatively and better still, he could refer the matter to the Prime Minister who would then respond to it because it cuts across more than one Ministry. Is he in order to run away from answering the Question?"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the Assistant Minister in order to mislead this House that technical education in special schools is under the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology while we know special schools, for example, Ngara School for the Deaf has a technical department in it, vocational training which trains tailors, masons and is funded by the Ministry of Education and not the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology? Is the Assistant Minister aware that Joyland---"
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"content": " Order! You cannot ask the Minister a question. You rose on a point of order!"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, is the Assistant Minister in order to mislead the House that schools like Joyland which have departments funded by the Ministry are funded by the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology yet they are under the Ministry of Education? Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Assistant Minister should have answered parts “a”, “b” and then go to “c”."
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"content": " Assistant Minister, what do you have to say to that?"
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the hon. Member has talked of vocational training institutes. That is different from technical training institutes. Let me give you two examples. We have Joyland in Kisumu, that is a primary institution and it has vocational training, dress making and things like that. A technical institute like the one we have in Kisumu; the Kisumu Technical Training Institute belongs to the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology. Vocational training collages belong to us. Those are two different arrangements. Then, as regards Members asking me to answer this Question partly, if I do it partly, we shall end up with a problem as I will still be told to go and get the other parts. Why can we not split it; you give me one that I can handle. I will bring a very good answer to Parliament and then give the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology its part. For example, even in part “c” you are asking the Government to transfer these technical training institutes to the Ministry of Higher Education, Science and Technology, yet that is where they already belong."
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"content": " Assistant Minister, I will give you directions on what you should do. The organization of business in this House is premised on the understanding that there is one, and I repeat, one Government with collective responsibility to the House. So what you will do now is; you will go and consult the Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology to provide you with the relevant information that touches on higher education and then you combine the two then come and answer that Question in this House. When can you do that?"
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I still have a problem with that. This House---"
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